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Dearest all of the QB45/QB71 community,

Hello to all of you and a *rather* splendid evening to all of you here. !

I just recently brought the Pionex P70s monitor (the one that goes to the Pionex 450mhz “Pentium II”-based computer that I use) to the computer diagnostics class as I went there with my uncle from earlier today. I talked to the teacher of the class (and even showed him as well) about how the RGB color combination suddenly changed into an RB or a Red-Blue color combination shortly after I first turn it on, making the screen look so dark and stuff. Since then, he is taking it to the garage from within the place from which the class took place so that he can check out what is going on right now, and even have a possible shot of fixing it in the process so it can have an RGB combination once again instead of switching colors on me without warning.

And near the very end of the session tonight, I also asked the teacher if there is a monitor that I can use until he is all done checking it out and stuff, and then he said that he has to have the permission from another guy who owns the monitors in the garage before he can even let me use one. So, no go here. HOWEVER, I did ask permission from my grandma if it was OK to use the old monitor from down the basement for me to use until then and she gave me the alright here!

Having agreed, I went down into the basement then to get the monitor out, and it is a REALLY old one that was actually manufactured back in March, 1992 called the Laser 6448/51 monitor, something that I used back in the day from when I *first* made my very date with QuickBASIC and fell so wildly in love with it ever since my 386-based DOS computing days!!! !! I went in my room, hooked it up to the Pionex computer, and tried it out, and amazingly, it actually was a WORKING monitor that had an RGB full color resolution!!

Upon me booting Windows ME in there, I played it safe first by going into “Safe Mode” and changed the resolution there to 640x480 resolution with 256 colors (which required a restart, of course!). Then, once the computer rebooted, I tried to change from 256 to 16-bit color resolution within the very same graphics mode, and then 24-bit color in 640x480 mode, all without restarting, and guess what? IT ALL SUCCESSFULLY WORKED!! :o ! Quite so intensely shocking to me, but WOW, I mean for an old working monitor that is manufactured back in 1992, it can do 24-bit color and show it right through!! Quite utterly amazing right there!!! ;*) !!

The one slight trouble I had with the monitor is that it cannot show any resolution higher than 640x480, but that is OK for this monitor that it is on. You know something, all of you, it is indeed so _truly_ amazing what an old thing that has been sitting in the basement for years and years can do indeed, you understand me now? ^_^=b !

Now if you all excuse me please, I gotta whip up another all-new 7-liner QB text-mode screensaver original. :neo: Later!!



GETTING SOME NOSTALGIA GOING HERE,


Adigun Azikiwe Polack
One of the Founders of “Aura Flow”
Continuing Developer of “Frantic Journey”
Current Developer of “Star Angelic Slugger”
Webmaster of the “AAP Official Projects Squad”



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Any analog monitor can do 24-bit color.

To Plasma:

I did not know about that one, man. Interesting! From the monitors that I have used back in the very day since my early high-school years (especially those IBM-based ones, too!), I found out that at least some of them do have up to 24-bit color indeed, especially noticably on those 320x200 graphics modes! You are definitely on the right track now!

As for the monitor from Laser that I am talking about, man, in my mind’s own eye, I NEVER even thought period that it can *actually* even do 24-bit color in 640x480, no-siree!! But IT DID, my man! It did so successfully! !! Man, talk about packing a real awesome punch for a classic, I must say, Plasma! :wtnod: !

Awesome having you here, man, and talk to you again later!




- Adigun Azikiwe Polack
One of the Founders of “Aura Flow”
Continuing Developer of “Frantic Journey”
Current Developer of “Star Angelic Slugger”
Webmaster of the “AAP Official Projects Squad”

My monitor can't do 800x600, but it can do 720x480.

I have two old monitors that can do:
all that i have tested under and up to 640x480x16bit

And, 1024x768x8bit...

But not 800x600...


Is 1024x768 "more" standard then 800x600?, seems weird they can both do 1024x768, but not 800x600...

My old monitor dated back to 1993 died just a few months ago. It was aged 11 years and a few months .

Anyway AAP, I dont understand how you could change the color depth in safe mode? for me it shows only 16colors(thats 4bit) in safemode and i too was using WinME. I guess thats because it doesnt load the gfx card drivers.

BTW wasnt that a bit rash of you to just connecting the monitor? You should've taken some training first! :roll: (j/k)

To TheBigBasicQ:

Quote:My old monitor dated back to 1993 died just a few months ago. It was aged 11 years and a few months .

I am *so* sorry about that, man. ! I’ll bet it was a pretty powerful monitor at the time. Tell you what, if you know (and even remember well!) the text/graphics resolutions and color depths for each mode that the baby once had, TheBigBasicQ, do specify them to me please.

Quote:Anyway AAP, I dont understand how you could change the color depth in safe mode? for me it shows only 16colors(thats 4bit) in safemode and i too was using WinME. I guess thats because it doesnt load the gfx card drivers.

Actually man, how I did change the color depth in the Safe Mode of Windows 95/98/ME was such a real cinch that it is like, “hey, NO SWEAT! ”, you know now? All I did were these:

• 1 • Turn the computer on.
  
  2 • Just before Windows 9x/ME starts showing its own title screen right as it begins to boot up, press the F5 key quickly to activate Safe Mode.
  
  3 • Once Safe Mode is successfully loaded and the Windows desktop interface appears, please do the following:
  
  • a. Right-click anywhere in the blank area of your desktop. This will bring up a small menu like this (or something pretty close to that):
    
    Left-click “Properties”, please. It should then take you to the Display Properties menu.
    
    b. From the Display Properties menu, please make sure you left-click the “Settings” tab to select it. It should then look like this:
    
    (In Safe Mode, it should say “16 Colors” on the Colors tab by default. Hey, since I am taking these shots in Windows ME Normal Mode at the very time of me writing this post, I am just giving you this illustration in the best possible darned way that I do know how, so bear with me please, man. )
    
    c. On the Colors tab in Safe Mode, pull it down by left-clicking the arrow to the right of the bar that says “16 Colors”. From there, when the list of colors appear, go to “256 Colors” and select it. Hit “OK”.
    
    d. When Windows asks you to restart with 640x480 with 256 colors, click “OK” or “Yes”. The computer’ll then restart.
    
    e. When the computer restarts in Normal Mode, it will begin again with 640x480 mode, but with the color depth increased a bit to 8-bit color (or 256 colors).

The next time then you click your way to the Display Properties menu, man, then in the Colors tab there, a possible 16-bit and/or 24-bit and/or even 32-bit color will then be available for you to select, depending on both the monitor and the driver(s) for it.

Be sure you try all of that to make sure they all work for you just as they did for yours truly, okay now?



And going over to you, Z!re:

Quote:Is 1024x768 "more" standard then 800x600?

In some cases, yes. ^_^ However, Z!re, some people seem to believe 800x600 is the real deal on what their standard is. Others say it is 1024x768 (especially at least 16-bit or 24-bit of this). But really, it truly depends on which resolution is a definite choice among the many users, so yeah, 1024x768 is *at least* somewhat of a heavy favorite among computer and Windows users (and especially gamers who are really into such 3D fantasy online stuff like EverQuest, Ragnarok Online, Ultima Online, and all that sort of thing, no doubt!).

On the two old monitors you have, you said that you tested them out in resolutions under (and as well, up to) 640x480, 16-bit color and also in a resolution called 1024x768, 8-bit color. It seems funny to me why your monitors won’t do 800x600 resolution. Yet, it is so amazingly ironic that they do show 1024x768 so clearly in 8-bit color. Amazing there! In a way, you are one of the very fortunate ones to show a resolution that high indeed, so I am pretty proud of you there! =b !



Finally now, over to you, Frenkel:

Quote:My monitor can't do 800x600, but it can do 720x480.

Well, the Pionex P70s monitor that I so regularly used was a *VERY* powerful monitor to me at that time since first manufactured during the year 1999. It too supported 720x480. ! Also, it did support MANY resolutions in MANY color depths, all up to 800x600, 24-bit color. Unfortunately, it did not support anywhere past the 800x600 range. BUT, like I said, very powerful monitor indeed, Frenkel (and pleasure meeting you for the first time, too!)!!



I thank you all so much, TheBigBasicQ, Z!re, and Frenkel, for your sure cooperation here. And by the way, about my latest 7-liner in QB that I said that I was gonna whip up, IT IS NOW FINISHED!! ! You (and any who views this thread, too!) may wish to check it out near the end of this coming (and from yesterday afternoon, edited!) post in my most recent challenge thread. You are gonna love this coming source code there once you run it, believe me!

See you all later now. :king: !!



THANKING YOU ALL FOR YOUR WONDERFUL TIME WELL SPENT,


Adigun Azikiwe Polack
One of the Founders of “Aura Flow”
Continuing Developer of “Frantic Journey”
Current Developer of “Star Angelic Slugger”
Webmaster of the “AAP Official Projects Squad”

Unlike XP, which will do whatever it pleases (even if it breaks stuff in the process), the old 9x series allows you to do a lot in safe mode to keep the computer's hardware safe. Hence...safe mode.

my parents' computer is running XP and I've had to yet boot into XP's safe mode =P.

TBBQ, you don't listen to a word anyone else says, so why do you bother responding? :roll: