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I take exception to any body that tells me that DOS is dead or

Quote:The reason I say DOS is dead is because no professional software companies really support it anymore, since there's not much money to be made when almost all users are operating Windows, Mac and Linux systems.

The world is round because we can see it from a different angle now.

Get away from your desktop computer and look here:
The machines that weigh up the chips you are crunching
The machines that make the bags,
The machines that print the film the bag is made from
Some ATM's
The concrete plant that poured your drive way.
Some Game machines, Poker machines.
Solar control panels.

The list is endless.

Machines all over the world are running DOS every day, and if they
are running windows, then it is not controlling the machine in real time, there is probably a plc or another processor running dos.

I personally have hundreds of machines running dos day and night.

Quote:DOS software releases are few and far between these days, and limited mostly to hobbyist programmers.

So because the Screw driver was never updated, that means nobody uses it any more, or they must be hobbyist.

Quote:I think it's a shame that the great wealth of work from the past twenty years of DOS is already being forgotton.

By whom ?
So I drive a car now, therefore the push bike is dead.
Go to China and prove it.

Quote:Anyway, I don't think FreeBasic could have come at a better time.

If you are writing for Windows then there are already thousands
of tools available. If backward compatibility with DOS had been
maintained, even a Dinosaur like me would support it.


Oh, and why did I take so long to respond to this news letter, ?
I was out bush installing a DOS machine that produces Beef Jerky and a DOS concrete plant that produces hollow core bridge sections.


Sorry Pete, you are doing a great job, but sometimes you have to be pulled to a different reality.

Regards[/quote]

Moved here. This is not QB news

Btw, DOS is dead = DOS is dead commercially speaking. While it is used in many places, most home computers use Windows or Linux or MacOS. Their manufacturers don't support it anymore.

DOS is still useful in many scenarios. That's why I see that fB for DOS32 is a great achievement. But if you are coding games and you want your games to be playable by many people, it's better to forget DOS. Sure, you can run a MSDOS program just fine in Windows XP as long as it doesn't use EMS, you know how to configure VDMSound, and you are lucky and your SVGA modes are activable from within the NTVDM, but that only happens to 1% of modern computer owners.

DOS is dead, if we look at it in that way.

When I prototyped Arc86 (a generic arcade machine using an x86 mainboard), it was originally designed to run a variant of DOS. But the fact that the amount of programming required would be staggering to obtain realistic, modern effects, I abandoned the idea of a DOS-based system in favor of a Windows one instead. It made sense: try finding DOS drivers for the latest Radeon, for example...3D hardware acceleration in DOS...is that even possible? :???: Needless to say, the DOS idea went down the toilet. When it comes to cutting edge gaming, DOS is certainly dead. If I wanted to develop a more limited version of Arc86 (like an Arc86lite or something) then sure, I'd base it in DOS to give the app developer full control of the system...

Nek there are some Dos drivers still around, try http://www.scitechsoft.com/ I haven't tryed them myself, but there's supoosed to be smth. And there's OGL drivers somewhere for dos -I'v seen it myself, worked with allegro or smth. So if to search then there is.

Then there's www.freedos.org that is still under development and then there's freedos32 project that tryes to create true 32bit dos OS, but still keep backward compability with 16bit dos.

And interested in Dos programs? here: http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/indexall.htm

The only DOS product scitechsoft ever made that I know of was scitech display doctor, which I thought was a card driver that let you use VESA on some cards. But the only hardware acceleration driver I know that was ever made for DOS was the original 3dfx voodoo1 glide.

I posted it to New's because I was responding to Pete's news.

So, now you have clarified it.

DOS is dead for Gamers, and desktop users.

And by the way, ANYTHING windows can do can be done in DOS.
After all it just a case of a: finding the right driver, or b: writing the
right driver. You may not want to, because if the tools are already
written, why re-invent the wheel. In any case we are both
controlling a cpu with assembly instructions

I guess in a way I am the lucky one, I have complete control over
the CPU, no sharing with other programs or user's, and the only
sprite I have ever had was a soft drink.

Regards

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Technically, ANY of this crap can be done without a computer, provided you can find
a) The right combination of wires and transistors.
b) Forging your own copper wires with your teeth.

But I suppose I am the lucky one, biting on wires and cutting myself instead of going out and enjoying life at the end of my workday, because I have complete control over a small computing device

Don't you know what DOS stands for?

DOS = Dead Operating System

So much for intelligent discussion.

Quote:So much for intelligent discussion.

Oh get over it, he was making a joke. :roll: What the hell is wrong with people anymore? :???: