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Terror attack in Istanbul, Turkey... - Zap - 11-21-2003
Quote:It's called loyalty to the cause, and a need for martyrdom. Don't believe the crap you see on television.
Yeah, I know that. I think I chose the wrong words, and I know that television is greatly affected by the ones who make it, and the government in some countries.
What I meant, and should've said, was something like 'they must believe very strongly that it's right what they do, to kill them selves for it'. If you see it from their point of view, I can understand maybe a tiny bit why they do it. I'm not saying I would ever go the violence-way, talking might be harder, but it gets you further.
Terror attack in Istanbul, Turkey... - TheBigBasicQ - 11-22-2003
Zap, these people have 'crap' in their head. They are crazy, hypnotized, brainwashed beings. They dont know what they are doing.
Terror attack in Istanbul, Turkey... - adosorken - 11-22-2003
If you wanna get down to it...everyone is brainwashed in one way or another.
Although we tend more to call it "influenced"...it's just that these people who we are speaking about have been influenced in the ways of violence and destruction. They know very well what they are doing, or else they could never carry out plans requiring such precision and tact.
Terror attack in Istanbul, Turkey... - TheBigBasicQ - 11-22-2003
Yes, we all are brainwashed in one way or the other. But not to an extent that we lose the ability to make decisions. They are brainwashed so much that their 'self preservation' instinct too is lost
Terror attack in Istanbul, Turkey... - adosorken - 11-22-2003
That's nothing new
Remember the Kamikazes in WWII? Same situation.
Terror attack in Istanbul, Turkey... - TheBigBasicQ - 11-22-2003
Yeah =*(
Terror attack in Istanbul, Turkey... - Agamemnus - 11-22-2003
Hm....
I am not being sarcastic.
Government records.
The Nazis kept records of their systematic killings. They were, in fact, almost obsessed with record keeping.
Terror attack in Istanbul, Turkey... - red_Marvin - 11-22-2003
Quote:Well IMHO terrorists shouldnt be labeled 'Islamic' or of any other religion...Infact they dont have any religion.
Agree. I'm no Islamic expert or something, but according to a TV
program I saw a year ago, the Khoran (sp), wich is the Islamic
holy writing (maybe a bad name), forbids murder.
So then I make the conclusion that those terrorists who call themselves
fundamental muslims, are just hiding behind a shield of religion,
and that's sad, because then they cast their shadow on the rest
of the Islamic world...
Terror attack in Istanbul, Turkey... - na_th_an - 11-22-2003
The Coran is a beautiful text which has nothing to do with what fundamentalists believe. It teaches good values and virtues, just like the Bible.
Terror attack in Istanbul, Turkey... - adosorken - 11-22-2003
Quote:The Coran is a beautiful text which has nothing to do with what fundamentalists believe. It teaches good values and virtues, just like the Bible.Unfortunately, fundamentalists of both sects (the Muslims and the Christians) are 110% off their rocker and have no clue what their own religion is about. And people constantly hide behind that shield of religion. It's not only pathetic but immoral BY THEIR OWN RELIGIOUS TEACHINGS. That's what always cracks me up.
Every once in awhile, a Christian fundamentalist makes the mistake of crossing my path. I have no qualms about crushing him with his own religion, since I know it far better than he does. As a religious scholar, I have spent many years researching world religions and their histories and the one thing I have found is that over the centuries, most of these wars are caused simply by religious disagreements.
Pathetic.