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death penalty - PlayGGY - 02-21-2004
Quote:Other things. Should Hitler recieve the death penalty? I can't answer that. He didn't personally kill all those people, but it was because of him. What happened to the Jews that I saw on videos and documentaries as a little kid gave me nightmares. However, he gave preWW2 Germany the boost they needed. With unemployment soaring, inflation topping, economy in insane recession, he did what it took to get his country back, even if he failed. Millions of Germans agreed with him. Were they wrong?
You are one of the sickest people I have ever seen. :normal:
If you know about WWII history, you would know what policies he did:
His National Socialist party spend millions on the war effort, including the torture camps, which imporved the German economy (and gave it a staggering debt). So even that in the long run hurt.
And OF COURSE the millions of Germans who agreed with Hitler, and went to his warm and fuzzy marches, were wrong. He completely devasted Germany, caused the torture and death of millions, and would have taken over all of Europe if it weren't for the UK and the US.
Yes, people who agreed with Hitler were wrong.
death penalty - KiZ - 02-22-2004
Its like those stupid advertising campaigns they used to have for cigarettes:
Can X Million people be wrong?
...
Of course they can!!!! DUH!
PlayGGY: I disagree with you about Aetherfox being sick. I just think maybe he sees the image in a slightly different way than you do. I dont think that Aetherfox is condoning Hitler, just stating that despite the fact he ordered the death of millions of people, he gave Germany a massive economic boost, and provided job for the millions of people who were unemployed after the recession after WW1.
(Btw, I certainly dont like Hitler one bit (so dont get the impression that I do) He should have been strangled at birth because in the long run, he destroyed Germany as a country)
death penalty - na_th_an - 02-22-2004
Quote:Nathan, you just finished saying that someone's scenario was hypothetical, and then went on to make the biggest hypothetical I have ever seen.
Of course, exactly how I stated, but, unlike his assertion, mine was completely possible.
There are cases of innocent people which have been killed by a death penalty. I think that people who support the death penalty are the same kind of people who support having arms and the same kind of people who love ol' John Wayne's films and voted Schwarzenegger for governor. I really would like to tell all those people that we are on the XXIth century. Please, evolve. You are in the most dangerous rich country. Maybe you should change your mind about how things are.
death penalty - Seker359 - 02-22-2004
Quote:unlike his assertion, mine was completely possible
I think you missed my point. No, serial killers aren't going to be let go to move in next to a specific person. My point was that many of the people that are against the death penalty would change their tune if they had to deal directly with the charming individual they are defending.
Quote:There are cases of innocent people which have been killed by a death penalty
Any innocents put to death is a problem with the legal system, not the death penalty.
Quote:Maybe you should change your mind about how things are.
I'll just adopt an equally self righteous tone and tell you to change your mind about how things are. My view is the only view. Didn't you know that?
death penalty - PlayGGY - 02-22-2004
Nathan, are you saying that the government is the only thing that should be allowed to have guns? Talk about dangerous.
death penalty - Agamemnus - 02-22-2004
Quote:.....and the same kind of people who love ol' John Wayne's films and voted Schwarzenegger for governor.
:normal: .............:o ............ :lol: ................ :rotfl:
death penalty - adosorken - 02-22-2004
PlayGGY, your history is a tad inaccurate. Although the US and the UK played a role in defeating the Nazis, the real cause for their defeat was the Russians and their "Scorched Earth Policy". And I agree with aetherFox in what he said about pre-WW2 Germany...Hitler DID do all those things. You are simply referring to the atrocities he machined DURING the conflicts, ignoring what he accomplished before the war. That makes you biased and one-sided.
And to those who want to yell about "oh but he killed six million people"...you're all wrong. It was twelve million, half of wihch were Jewish and the other half a mixture of other races and religions, predominantly, if memory serves, Catholic.
People who agreed with Hitler were not wrong. If you use that point of view, any United Statesian who agrees with George W Bush is wrong, because GWB is doing the exact same thing Hitler did...just in a less obvious, far more devious way. GWB said all the same things Hitler said...talking on about how the country should be defended from "evil forces", how their people were the best in the world, etc. You can draw thousands of parallels. But I'll leave such research up to you to do. Should you simply choose to ignore these things, I get to discount you as a biased fool.
death penalty - Agamemnus - 02-22-2004
You can also draw thousands of parallels between Mao and Mickey Mouse.
death penalty - PlayGGY - 02-22-2004
The only thing that b]Hitler did[/b] to help the German ecomony was the war, which ended up bankrupting it.
And there are too many differences to say between Bush and Hitler, but mainly the fact that Hitler attacked free countries and tried to enslave them, Bush attacked an enslaved country and freed them.
death penalty - na_th_an - 02-22-2004
Quote:Nathan, are you saying that the government is the only thing that should be allowed to have guns? Talk about dangerous.
In Europe, only law inforcers have guns. Normal people may have guns, but they are not so easy to get. Some people have riffles but they use them for haunting.
I haven't seen a gun in my life (out of its cartridge hanging from a policeman's belt).
In my country, we prefer to build a good bolt instead of a gun. Better a door closed. I can take a walk in the capital city at 3 AM. Can you walk at 3 AM in Chicago?