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is it safe? - Diroga - 11-25-2004 hifty: make a program that will delete files and then over write them mulitpul times to make it a un-able-to-get-back-file. DOD grade is prefurable. hifty: is it safe? - Z!re - 11-25-2004 Mac over at www.qbasic.com forum (the network54 one) was working on some program like that some time ago... I think it was Mac... Look over there, it might be in the "Programs I'm proud of" Section... is it safe? - Sterling Christensen - 11-26-2004 When overwriting a file, sometimes the new data isn't wrtten over the old data, but instead at some other location (well, with some filesystems anyway). That means there's no way to be sure that a file is not recoverable. However... assuming the filesystem isn't something like Reiser3 (where the tails of multiple files could share a single sector), the program could find every sector used by the file, and overwrite that sector repeatedly. But that would require low level hard drive access. is it safe? - moochthemonkey - 11-26-2004 Since where on similar discussion, I've noticed for a while how damaging QB can be. You can be some mad rebel and hate the world, and be a good programmer at the same time. You could make a program that supposedly is a game of some sort, include source to the game, but in the exe file, the game's first command is the KILL statement..and in that commandstring there is the C drive with wild characters :barf: :barf: :barf: And the bad thing is that it wont appear as a virus in a virus scan either... Is there a way I can detect if a qb program has a kill command or not? Re: is it safe? - Moneo - 12-05-2004 Quote:hifty: make a program that will delete files and then over write them mulitpul times to make it a un-able-to-get-back-file. DOD grade is prefurable. hifty: Do you remember the Norton Utilities? They contained a utility called WIPE which does what you want. I don't know about the DOD grade, but I'll find my manual and check it out. If you can't find Norton's WIPE, and you really don't have to have DOD grading, then I can send you my own utility to do this. If you like, write to me at: moneo@prodigy.net.mx and we'll agree on something. ***** is it safe? - DrV - 12-05-2004 Quote:Since where on similar discussion, I've noticed for a while how damaging QB can be. You can be some mad rebel and hate the world, and be a good programmer at the same time. You could make a program that supposedly is a game of some sort, include source to the game, but in the exe file, the game's first command is the KILL statement..and in that commandstring there is the C drive with wild characters :barf: :barf: :barf: You could only use open-source programs... or you could use a disassembler and see if the code for the qb runtime's 'KILL' routine is linked in and then see if it is called from anywhere - yeah, right... is it safe? - Moneo - 12-06-2004 Diroga, I found my Norton Utilities manual. Norton's program is called WIPEFILE. It has a switch /G that causes the program to perform certain goverment rules when wiping/deleting files. I suggest using this. If you can't find it, let me know. ***** is it safe? - na_th_an - 12-06-2004 http://www.jogi.com/schrege-voegel/software/_nu85.htm |