02-06-2003, 12:41 AM
Toonski: You're right (WE can't change anything) but I think it's interesting to discuss theese sort of issues. And since the discussion seems to be serious and there's no hard feelings I don't see what's wrong if we continue talking about it.
Nathan: I care Nathan... I really do. And if it sounds like I'm cold-blooded or something like that it might be that english isn't my first-language and it's hard to get the right words when expressing myself.
Well, Sadam has proven that he's capable of evil-deeds (chemical attacks in north iraq for example) and he's been lying to UN ever since 1991. I hasn't received any information that shows that Bush is in the same "league" as Sadam. I know many of the guys from USA here (no names said) don't like Bush. But for me (Swedish guy) it seems like Bush is a "normal" president without any "evil habbits". But as I said, I base this opinion through what I see on TV,read in newspaper and so on.
One question though: What's wrong with Bush? I know many of you dislike (or should I use the word hate) Bush, but I don't really understand what he's done that's so bad. But please tell me...
SjZero:
Well said, but I don't agree with you. I don't think we can (or should be allowed to) sit back while people suffers cause a nations goverment is un-democratic and hostile against it's own people. If we leave theese countries without help, what's the point we have UN? Why not let all countries do exactly what they want? No, I don't belive in that. But I do think that the world-community can sometimes be wrong and not use the right priority. It sometimes feels like not all people have the same value. Why not "get invloved" in Africa where many countries have "bad-goverment" and the people is suffering alot.
Nathan: I care Nathan... I really do. And if it sounds like I'm cold-blooded or something like that it might be that english isn't my first-language and it's hard to get the right words when expressing myself.
Quote:But why are you blindly confiding in Mr Bush? Why do you believe him, and not Saddam?
Well, Sadam has proven that he's capable of evil-deeds (chemical attacks in north iraq for example) and he's been lying to UN ever since 1991. I hasn't received any information that shows that Bush is in the same "league" as Sadam. I know many of the guys from USA here (no names said) don't like Bush. But for me (Swedish guy) it seems like Bush is a "normal" president without any "evil habbits". But as I said, I base this opinion through what I see on TV,read in newspaper and so on.
One question though: What's wrong with Bush? I know many of you dislike (or should I use the word hate) Bush, but I don't really understand what he's done that's so bad. But please tell me...
SjZero:
Quote:I think trying to use your army to shape the world like that is a fools game. For every nation you convert to democracy, you create an Osama bin Laden plotting to destroy the nation he has a vendetta against.
Well said, but I don't agree with you. I don't think we can (or should be allowed to) sit back while people suffers cause a nations goverment is un-democratic and hostile against it's own people. If we leave theese countries without help, what's the point we have UN? Why not let all countries do exactly what they want? No, I don't belive in that. But I do think that the world-community can sometimes be wrong and not use the right priority. It sometimes feels like not all people have the same value. Why not "get invloved" in Africa where many countries have "bad-goverment" and the people is suffering alot.
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