Posts: 691
Threads: 5
Joined: Apr 2002
Quote:Nice list of MALLCORE.
You're misguided, the first few in the list are clearly not Mallcore/Nu Metal, bands such as Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple really defined the heavy rock sound back in their day. Some of the bands there are Nu Metalish such as Linkin Park, but if you are calling bands like Rage, System and Tool Nu Metal, then you really haven't bothered to listen to enough of their songs.
Quote:This is one of my favorite songs, check it out
Its average, the guitar playing is very Metallica-ish, that kind of melodic start going into heavy chainsaw riff which is kind of nice. But when it gets heavy you start to notice the complete lack of a bass guitarist (maybe he is there and the MP3 is crap quality), so you get left with this empty hollow between the guitar and the drums. Not to worry cause the singer jumps in to fill that gap, which sounds really odd cause you cant make him out properly because the guitars drown him out. I dont mind that kind of heavy screamy singing as long as it works well with the song, (IMHO) it doesnt fit the mood of this song well, I also prefer a combination of heavy screamy with semi-melody stuff (Slipknots Wait and Bleed for example).
As a DJ I have learnt to like most songs for what they are, I dont really like most Linkin Park or Limp Bizkit (although Head for the Barricade is kind of funky) but they are two of the easiest bands to pull a dance floor with, because they have nice danceable beats and everyone knows the words. You can only start playing the less well known screamy stuff later when you have people locked on the dance floor.
Anyway thats just the music I play at work. About half of my own collection is on vinyl and contains stuff like: Pink Floyd, Led Zep, Deep Purple, Aerosmith, Jethro Tull, Wishbone Ash, 10cc, David Bowie, The Doors, The Beatles, Dire Straits, Jimmy Hendrix, Queen, Peter Frampton, right through to stuff like System of a Down, Tool and Rage.
Remember that Mallcore/Nu Metal comes from the sound of a song, not the name of the band. That Moonshine song is (again MHO) pretty borderline Nu-Metal, it doesn't really have any nice progression in the song, its just a cool guitar piece with a guy screaming something incomprehensible under it.
esus saves.... Passes to Moses, shoots, he scores!
Posts: 1,166
Threads: 62
Joined: Apr 2003
Quote:You're misguided, the first few in the list are clearly not Mallcore/Nu Metal, bands such as Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple really defined the heavy rock sound back in their day. Some of the bands there are Nu Metalish such as Linkin Park, but if you are calling bands like Rage, System and Tool Nu Metal, then you really haven't bothered to listen to enough of their songs.
Sure, I spotted those and just didn't want to specify.
Of course, System of a Down isn't metal. I like their music, but they're just rock, not metal.
Tool is crap though, and I stick by that.
Zeppelin is definitely not mallcore, but meh.
am an asshole. Get used to it.
Posts: 691
Threads: 5
Joined: Apr 2002
Quote:Sure, I spotted those and just didn't want to specify.
Of course, System of a Down isn't metal. I like their music, but they're just rock, not metal.
Tool is crap though, and I stick by that.
Zeppelin is definitely not mallcore, but meh.
I posted the stuff we play at work, because we play alot of heavy rock and metal music, more of the former, but most bars/clubs wont play much of either genre because of the crowd it draws in. We have /really/ big security guards ;-)
I wouldn't say Tool is crap, some of their songs drag on a bit long with some wishy-washy stuff (Schism in particular) and they have some pretty weird stuff (useful idiot and (-)ions), but they generally have a strong heavy sound and they are very clever lyrically.
esus saves.... Passes to Moses, shoots, he scores!
Posts: 65
Threads: 12
Joined: May 2003
Iron Maiden
Van Halen
Deep Purple
(Old) Metallica
Accept
Rush .... These bands rock!!!
There not all metal... Cause I don't like to stick to one music style
BTW: Trance s*cks
Posts: 104
Threads: 8
Joined: Jun 2003
metal? uhmmmmmmm.......i don't like metal.
I listen to Rock, mostly Punk Rock.
Bad Religion, Blink 182, Sum 41, The Offspring, Greenday, Placebo, Him(goth-rock i'd say), Die Toten Hosen, Die Ãrzte, W!ZO (german bands)
cheers/mariuz
'm so lazy... no really.... i am the laziest programmer ever ... ever.
Posts: 6,419
Threads: 74
Joined: Mar 2002
Aw ...
Blink 182, Offspring, Greenday are punk? If so, I am the queen of hearts.
Sex Pistols, The Clash. That's punk.
IMHO, the aforementioned three bands are mainstream teenage bang-bangs.
And Trance... Well, trance is like some kind of computer based loop that can be sequenced in about five minutes. I could write a trance record in 1 hour, but I'd get a headache first
Mariuz: HIM are great. "Love Metal" they say they are. Lol about that, but their cover of "(Don't fear) The Reaper" from Blue Oyster Kult is amazing. I've listened to "Die Toten Hosen" (dead trousers?) and most of the stuff I've listened to is cool.
About metal...
In 1972, Marc Bolan couldn't have expressed it better: " Metal Guru, is it you?".
Posts: 780
Threads: 49
Joined: Dec 2001
Ninkazu watch it,
one day ur gonna get on someones nerves
quite the arrogant prick
express ur distaste more subtly
i know i dont do it all the time, but im not proud
i like tool. infact
they are amazing
acquired taste.
tool is the kind of music u have to think about when u listen
in my opinion its the completely wrong thing for a DJ to be touching, but then again im not a DJ.
nate, its Cult with a C i thought?
i didnt like that cover to much...the singing was a bit odd...they were like 8 octaves off...BOC did it better imo...but a lot of people liked it...
yeah i dotn like trance eiter...techno, trance, dance, house, etc etc can like b made on reBirth or something in like 15 minutes...i know, becuz i did it.
Posts: 1,138
Threads: 211
Joined: Feb 2020
Don't say trance is crap or horrible, its a difficult genre of music that has a 99% crap release rate(there are very very few good examples of trance imho, and if you can create it in 5mins or even an hour you don't know the qualities of trance then). You may be able to imitate a release commerical "trance", but many things are mislabled
Back to the actual topic; don't diss a type of music you don't like, because you just can't (imho) if you don't understand it.
Posts: 6,419
Threads: 74
Joined: Mar 2002
Well, I do like many kinds of electronic music, but Techno-Trance and Dance stuff are forbiden for my brains.
The problem with Trance, Progressive, Dance, et al... for me is that they are genres very well defined. If you want to create Dance music, use that beat, that kind of bassline, and that patch of sounds. Last year I lived with a famous (here, in Spain) breakbeat musician, who had tons of all kinds of electronic music among his favourite tunes of all time, composed by a huge variety of people and nothing to do with mainstream beebops. 90% of dance, trance, progressive stuff had the same lead sound, the same bassline, the same percussion. That's what I don't like.
What I do like about eletronic music is cool stuff such as that composed by Royksopp, for example.
Posts: 1,138
Threads: 211
Joined: Feb 2020
I agree that a lot of trance/electronic music is very similar(which is why it is crap[imho ;-) ]). To quote PvD "don't imitate, innovate". Maybe I'm just going against the grain of the popular "trance"/electronic"(please never call it dance) culture but then again look at the I am at ;-) (I'm not one for going for most popular ;-) )
Ok, I've hijacked Ninkazu's thread enough..
|