Woo Hoo! Go C++ Go!

[TheBigBasicQ]

Yes, I have Red Hat Linux 9.1 (its amazing!). I have used gcc but didnt go for any serious projects =)

[LooseCaboose]

c++ is an awesome language

*cough*hack*cough*,

Sorry, got something stuck in my thoat there.

I know it can be done in Win as well. But I want to continue my development in DOS based apps since its closer to linux =).

Where did you get that bizarre notion? Linux and other Unix variants are far closer to Windows than they are to DOS. Both are 32/64 bit multiprocessing, memory managed operating systems. It is constantly becoming easier to port between Windows and Linux these days, big name games such as Halflife, the Quake series and the Unreal series all run natively on Linux and usually from the same source tree (at least from the games I have seen the source for ;-)). Id Software in particular have been developing their games on a Unix variant called NextStep and then porting them to Windows.

[na_th_an]

Loosecaboose is completely right. DOS is just a CP/M hack, it doesn't have any resemblance to Unix/Linux et al.

And C++ is a TRUE hack

C++ sucks. Mind you.

TBBQ: DJGPP is a GCC port, so most likely your programs will compile directly with your Linux GCC compiler. You can port your games to Linux . You can also download Cygwin or another GCC port for windows and compile your game for windows as well.

Is great that my C games compile in Windows without changes. I advice you to leave DOS as fast as you can as Windows XP emulates PMODE so badly. I can only get 16 megs Shame.

[TheBigBasicQ]

To all, What I meant by saying DOS is closer to Linux is that both have command prompts. Though Linux also has a GUI in which case DOS too has a GUI(Win 3.x).

Nathan: C++ doesnt suck from any angle. Atleast not for me. I have been using C/C++ for quite sometime to make that opinion. But it was just recently I tried using other compilers and a addon Library =)

Loose: Which bizzare notation are you talking about? Is it this[ =) ] If so then its a smiley =)

[Joakim]

Nah c++ does not suck at all. It is most likely the most featured language around.
But it's not perfect in any way either. It's syntax is a mess and library includes can be a mess.
The language itself might not be that great, but the compilers are superb, so it is the best choice I can think of... for now...

[na_th_an]

I say "C++" sucks not for being less featured. I say that 'cause it is a mess. It is poorly designed. It is not OOP nor procedural, but a bad mixed mess.

[aetherfox]

Couple of things to say.

1. ORACLE! I gotta congratulate you on taking this adminning thing very well. No offence to wildcard, but he did need the help, and you are doing a great job. I admire you're spirit, and I hope it doesn't wear off.

2. after listening to nate ranting on about his cpp hatred, i unfortunately agree with him.

3. the whole c/c++ thing does rock tho

[toonski84]

c++ isnt necessary. But it's object oriented enough so that it makes programming easier while still maintaining speed. A hack maybe, but that doesnt make it not an awesome language. Keep in mind an awesome language is only awesome with an awesome compiler or ide. qb'd be crap without its ide. c'd be crap without its excellent compilers. asm'd be crap if it didnt have the fastest goddamned compilers on the planet.

As for dos, well, yeah, it's already a piece of "retroprogramming" and it's going to sink farther back into that catagory as windows shows less and less support for it. as with all of their products, microsoft is probably smart to "phase out" of them, but it could do them good to make qb 2003, personally.

[na_th_an]

The prob with DOS is that most probably 64 bits computers will be able to emulate 32 bits programs natively but not 16 bits. DOS will become an emulators matter. In three years or less, I guess we will be coding in an emulator. Then this community will be very similar to Lemon64 or World of Spectrum.

Most people will use an emu to code their QB games and some lucky people would be able to say "I can try the game in the real thing, I have a P233 sitting somewhere"

[toonski84]

lol. fortunately for c64 and spectrum programmers is that asm still exists. QB only has *shudder* VB to look to, and a host of mediocre windows wannabes.

you know, this whole language thing really wouldnt be an issue if programmers would get their heads on straight. Think about html. With validators and such, they use a definitions file to interpret your code. So much of programming overlaps that if you made one base compiler that took different definitions for different languages (c, c++, pascal, basic, java, etc), and compiled them in this one compiler, you'd be *so* set. like a multi-language compiler, like multi-language ides are already. I know some virtual machines are already like this but a compiler would be sweet. You optimize the compiler, every single language gets optimized.