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Possible Windows source code leak
#41
I usually turn the crappy XP effects off. And I don't think I'll be coding a Linux UI anytime soon...that's only one piece of the "I won't use Linux on my desktop" pie Smile

A universal OS would suck...it would kill innovation that's spawned by competition. Big Grin
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#42
Windows has a full market share because of good business practices. They're a company that sells software. Dont be all elitist because they're successful. Do you think they were just handed 90% of the market share? Think about how many of you here use Windows (this is a rhetorical question, Linux users).

As for the code leak, this is bad news, but less than 5% of the source code was stolen. Try and do anything effective with 5% of any of programs, and you'll understand it's fixable.

On a side note, I think it would be interesting to see a new computer chip architecture and a new OS built from the ground up. It would be an impossibly difficult task and it would never sell well, but it would be interesting to see a modern operating system that hasn't been built upon for 10+ years.
i]"I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum ... you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"[/i] - Dirty Harry
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#43
Quote:As for the code leak, this is bad news, but less than 5% of the source code was stolen. Try and do anything effective with 5% of any of programs, and you'll understand it's fixable.
The leaked source is 660Mb.

If you take your 5%: 660*20=12Gb source, for 2 OS's which both fit on 650discs?

The full code constist of somewhat 40milion lines of code, this is NOT 40Gb as some sites say, 40'000'000 lines of code, 50bytes per line = 2Gb
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#44
Sourcecode size does not equal binary executable size. Ever. That's just the way it is. Quite often, especially in cases like this, the sourcecode is far larger than the binaries. When I disassemble programs, the listfile is often 60-70 times larger than the EXE, and it's straight assembly language.
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#45
Quote:Sourcecode size does not equal binary executable size. Ever. That's just the way it is. Quite often, especially in cases like this, the sourcecode is far larger than the binaries. When I disassemble programs, the listfile is often 60-70 times larger than the EXE, and it's straight assembly language.
I know, but it's MicroSoft's own fact that the full source is 40million LINES long, and NOT 40Gb.

If you use ASM only (yeah right, MS making an OS using only ASM)
The average line would be less than 50bytes so the source would be smaller (in size) than 2Gb.

However you turn it there is no way you get to a 40Gb code with 40G lines, unless you have a line average of 1k bytes, and that is a very very long line


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Ey... They removed the quote about open source coders being just like suicide car bombers over at http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/art...hp/3312451
Wonder why :rotfl:
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#46
If the leaked source is 660MB and it was less than 5% of 40 million lines, either the sourcecode is saturated with comments or one of the figures is wrong. I agree that it is highly unlikely that 5% = 660MB of sourcecode. I think that 5 is missing a 0 after it Wink (aka 50%)
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#47
you hear about half-life 2? they say they got leaked too. really what is the benifit some one could get from the source on them files?
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#48
Quote:Windows has a full market share because of good business practices.

Dont you talk about good business practices. You should really go back into history and see how bill gates has built his company. All the cheating, deception, lies...you cant imagine it. All the major companies have been fooled/cheated by microsoft at one time or the other.

And they release their software with so much holes in them that you need not search for vulnerabilities.

Tell me despite Linux being opensource why arent viruses being written to target their systems? I mean a determined hacker could do that but it is tad difficult.
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#49
Quote:you hear about half-life 2? they say they got leaked too. really what is the benifit some one could get from the source on them files?
HL2 source got stolen, someone outside hacked a developers email and gained access to the source.

Windows source got leaked, someone who had the source through MS's "open source" thingy leaked it. The MS Open Source thingy is: MS gave a few companies the exclusive rights to have windows code, it is copyrighted and they are not allowed to distribute it. But someone did anyways.
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#50
It was daring of him/her =). They will most likely trace him =(.
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