C/C++ or Java

[Hellbound]

Which language is better? I know some C++ but no Java. I hear that Java is the fastest programming language and they dropped C++ and switched to Java in A.P. Computer Science.

[Zack]

Hahahahah! Java, the fastest programming language! That really cracks me up.
You have it the other way around...C++ and C are the (AFAIK) fastest languages, aside from Assembly.
Learn C. Not Java. Unless you're trying to get a job.

[adosorken]

Both are extremely dependant on their environment and compiler.

[Zack]

Okay, Nek, name one C/C++ compiler that runs slower than any Java VM.
On a 386DX.

[TheBigBasicQ]

Hehe, C/C++ is always a better choice. Theres nothing that you can do with Java that you cant do with C++ =P. Infact there are programs which you can only write in C++ but not in Java =P.

[adosorken]

Define "fast". BASIC is faster than C. How? In development time. I can whip out a program in any form of BASIC in about a third of the time it takes me to write the same program in any form of C. In the same respect, Java might be faster than C++ in terms of development time. Thus, saying that Java is faster than C++ would be very accurate. Note that no reference to what attribute was being written, only "fast". It could mean anything. And Zack...trying to isolate a factor isn't going to prove your point. Nice try but no banana.

[TheBigBasicQ]

I think he is refering to program execution.

[na_th_an]

That depends on what you want to do. For example, code server-side applications. You can do JSP (Java Server Pages) which will perform great at tomcat (Apache+JSP) servers. Doing such kinds of services is 10x easier in Java than in C++, not to mention that your CGIs will work in any platform.

In cell phones the Java VM is in hardware, so if you code in C++ for them you would have to compile to Java bytecode (Java bytecode = assembly for the JVM)

Again, saying that a language is slow or fast is stupid.

And all of you who think that Java is slow, please try a real Java compiler which outputs real executables.

Btw, everything that can be done in C++ can be done in Java. Java can access externs APIs, mind you.

So if you are gonna code games, learn C++. If you are gonna code accounting applications and stuff, learn VB. If you are gonna code for the internet or for cell phones, learn Java.

If you are a geek like me learn everything

[TheBigBasicQ]

Yeah thats what I meant nathan. You cant code kick a$$ games in Java(for the PC) =P.

[na_th_an]

Well, nobody has done it yet, but it could be done. Just plug a real Java compiler and make use of OpenGL calls

Anyhow, I can't code a kicka$$ game neither in C++ nor in Java :lol: