Hey, look what I've found...

[Dav]

So...can anyone else here claim to have purchaced QB new from a store when it was current??

There's not many around who have, but I bought QB new from a computer store.

Nathan: I'm working now on porting the QB45 manual -- It's over 450 pages!


- Dav

[Antoni Gual]

Here you can find Windows 1.0 for if anyone is interested:
http://aph.pccu.edu.tw/ftp/OSR/windows1/win1.0_1985.zip
It seems it came in 5!!! floppies...

[red_Marvin]

If you go up one level (i.e. http://aph.pccu.edu.tw/ftp/OSR/), they seem to have quite many OS'es

[na_th_an]

Yeah, I have it

Windows 2.03 came in 9 160Kb floppies and taking in account that a 80286 with a single sided, single density 5 1/4 drive took the same time to read a 160Kb floppy as a newer computer takes to read a 1.44 Kb floppy, imagine the ridiculous amount of time to install just 1 Meg of data!!!

Anybody has a BMP to MSP which actually works? I've downloaded a couple but MS Paint in Windows 2.03 refuses to load the files arguing that they are invalid.

[TheBigBasicQ]

kewl nathan =P. BTW you could include the setup instructions about using the SUBST command to make it appear for the install that the input is coming from the floppy drive =).

[SCM]

Paint Shop Pro supports .msp. I would guess other graphics programs would also. If they don't work, you might have a version conflict.

[na_th_an]

I have to find something that converts to the really old MSP format. What I've tried so far doesn't work. I'll try finding some old image converters, for example the good old CompuShow.

Cheers!

[Mango]

Dave...I can confirm...458 numbered pages.
EDIT:: Actually, the book is in 2 sections...the first (Learning to use Microsoft QuickBasic) covers the IDE and is 322 pages, while the second part (Programming in BASIC) occupies the last 458 numbered pages!!!

Nate...That win 2.something looks like the program I was talking about. The clock looks the same. As I recall, it auto-resizes if you change it's window dimensions...About the coolest thing I could do was fill the screen with different sized clocks and watch the lag as the second hands updated... :wink:

[na_th_an]

lol! All those weird stuff we did with our old computers

I wonder what kind of system calls did these proggies use. Some of them work even in windows XP (although they throw a warning) and most on Windows 3.11, but some of them (for example Write or MS Paint) complain about "out of memory". I wonder what was used to build this applications. Possibly just C and a pain-in-the-ass API.

[Dav]

Dave...I can confirm...458 numbered pages.
EDIT:: Actually, the book is in 2 sections...the first (Learning to use Microsoft QuickBasic) covers the IDE and is 322 pages, while the second part (Programming in BASIC) occupies the last 458 numbered pages!!!

Yep, that's what mine goes to - 458 numbered pages. I'm scanning the last section first -- it's going slow....

Heh...glad to finally meet someone else who has the QB45 manual. How do you find it? I've always found the design awkward -- split up the way it is. Wish they would have just printed two smaller books -- one for the learning, and the other for reference.

- Dav