In memory of Cecilia Jang

[Rhiannon]

Try to look beyond the monetary gains the TV companies are making. Besides its not like they are charging you to watch it. If you dont want to/care just dont watch it.

They dont charge you directly. They charge you through their sponsors and advertisers during that hour. Since about 50% of a product's price is marketing......you do the math.

IMO the hate for the news media is getting in the way of everybodys thinking on this issue. Put the media aside. Just think if you come to know about Cecilia's horrible death from a non-news media source, wouldnt you feel bad? As opposed to this if you come to know a very old person who lived a very fruitful life died peacfully of old age in his/her sleep? Would you feel bad for the second death? I wont. Infact, I would be happy that the person lived a happy life and passed away in his/her sleep.

Children are dying and suffering in the world everyday. Why dont we hear about it, and why should we feel more sorry for one girl that was kidnapped than say, all the Tutsi children slaughtered in Rwanda, children starving all over the world and being sold in slavery and prostitution, and those that die in war? Cuz it doesnt sell.

[TheBigBasicQ]

As I said earlier. The sad part is the hatred of the news channel is getting in the way of your thinking.

I am not debating that people are dying everyday. All I am saying is this case is gruesome. There are worse cases that I know. I feel sad for them as well.

Don't drag media companies into this. Its their job. Its like you're using the internet and I can argue that you support crimes such as pornography just because you use the internet. But thats not the case. The way you use it matters.

Media companies earn profit from displaying the news item just because its 'hot'. But in that process the victim is being helped. By continuously bombarding the masses with the news hoping that the little humanity that may be left in any of the kidnappers might wake up and they might actually return the child - alive!

Also, "slavery, prostitution, war victims" are common media items and there are several NGOs, Governments....helping them. But that comparision isnt too good as you are comparing a particular case to a category of cases.

[Z!re]

How does it help the families? The kidnapper might return the child alive?

She's dead, I don't think he will bring her back alive.


How do the families benefit from being forced to watch their dead daughter on TV? Having journalists call them for an interview of their feelings.

-"How did it feel to see your dead molested daughter on TV?"


2 years ago the first girlfriend I ever had killed herself, it was all over the local news. And at one time it was even suspected to be murder.

That did not benefit me, in any way, it made me depressed and I quit school.


If you say families benefit from this then it just shows how much you don't know, and how ignorant and cold hearted you are.

[TheBigBasicQ]

Tell me how her family benefits from having to see their dead daughter on the news, having everyone know about it/talk about it.

That's not benefiting, that's torture...


And people are informed of what? She died? A lot more people die each day, in what way is cecilia more important?


I feel sorry for her, and her family. But THEY should tell me, and if THEY told me then that would mean that I was CLOSE to her, meaning that I would care more.


See it like this: If you die, would you have some random person on tv tell your family/friends, or would you rather that a close friend/family member told everyone?


I really hope that when I die only my family and friends will know about it, and I hope even more that they hear it from someone who's close to us all. Not some random person on the news pretending to give a damn.

Don't imagine they care, their job is to report things like this every day.

You didnt get my point. If you die of a natural death then nobody will tell the world about you unless you are some renowned person. But if you were to die as a homicide victim then yes you will(should) be shown on TV.

Torture? Thats funny. I wouldn't feel tortured if a close relative has been killed and the media is bombarding the TV with the news of this 'killing' rather I would feel a bit relaxed that his death wasnt in vain. People know about it and someone might come out with some knowledge which will help the law enforcement authorities to bring the responsible to justice.

Thats the way I look at it. You're view seems to be opposite. Also, I think the media can't display the news item if the family of the victim objects to it.

[Mech1031]

i'm not sure what the little girls in canada look like, but there was an 11 year old kidnapped/raped/killed in florida a while back. i felt kinda bad about it until i saw the footage of her being "kidnapped". she looked like she was thrity, she had enough makeup on to last her the rest of her life, and she practically walked up to the guy/walked away with him. there was no type of a struggle at all, she did it volentarally. i mean, the guy was probly lookin for a good time, then he found out she was 11 with a boob job and didn't want to get pressed with charges so he killed her. i'm sorry to say but it was her own damn fault. america has a veiw for little girls, to make them look 10 years older and give them breast implants. america sucks... hifty:

[Lachie Dazdarian]

I think some of you are wrong in their attitudes here. The point is that if you are not angry or sad about someone death, violent or not, it's not appropriate to show that.

I personally didn't felt discomfort nor sadness because of the people who died in the terrorist attack on the September 11th. Maybe it was because of my irrational antagonism toward Manhattan and the privileged people who live there. I don't know. That goes on my conscience. But in the time when that happened and when people discussed about it, it would be very inappropriate, rude and stupid to express that kind of feelings. So I said nothing. Which was wise.

Few weeks ago a person from another forum was talking about his grandmother death and I got irritated by other people saying they feel sorry and such. Maybe they were hypocrites but that was not a moment to attack them because of that and blab how I don't feel sorry for his grandmother. So I got bitchslaped because of it and did deserved it.

I don't like to give lectures to other people, especially to some that might be better than me but I think some of you behaved badly in this thread. If you don't have an opinion about this event, if you don't feel shocked, sad or raged about violent murder of a little girl then shut up. I don't belive threads of this nature are polluting the forum so you don't have to complain about it's presence.

[Rhiannon]

Then perhaps we should all get the sunday paper and post about all the innocent people that die every day. It would fill the forum quite fast. Hell, with reading the Puerto Rican paper El Vocero alone I could post 20 times a day. I think the point is that it is not that we arent shocked or whatever by this girl's death, but it is inhumane for news groups to emphasis these types of deaths for their own benefit, and especially when they dont discuss other children who die or are tortured everyday in horrible ways that arent publicized because noone wants to hear about that.

[SJ Zero]

Like I said, I'd be wallowing in sorrow in perpetuity if I let all the needless deaths of people I've never met I know about bother me. I mean, the holocaust? Every day in africa? Hell, how about in some bad neighbourhoods in big cities like toronto or LA or New York? I learned about the first two from non-news sources, as I also learned about the assination of JFK and Abe Lincon, and the war of 1812, and WWI(that was a truly bloody war). I know of the crusades, and the wars in Iraq which have claimed tens of thousands of innocent(yeah, like there are guilty lives...we're all innocent) lives at the hands of bombs dropped in the name of democracy, which is now, in spite of my claims otherwise, blood directly on my hands, and the hands of every Free man, regardless of his position on the war...


none of them are any more or any less tragic than Sicilia. All of them were cut short long before their times. They also have nothing to do with me. I knew not one of them, and no profound feelings will come from the death of yet another face or name without a person behind it. If my sister, or my freind, or one of my freinds kids died like that, I'd be bawling my eyes out, but this isn't. It's just some kid who died. I don't know her, and frankly, I'm kind of glad. This way I can chuckle at my bit of dark humor rather than have my humanity torn from me (as horror and sadness are apt at doing) by an icy dagger of sorrow every time some minor tragedy occurs. One kid... This is one kid... One kid you and I and everyone else here doesn't know. Can you tell me what Sicilia would be doing right now if she wasn't dead? Do you know what she'd say or do if she had been rescued instead of discovered? What she might say to her parents? Who she might run off to share her experiences with? No, we don't know her. All we see is a cute little asian girl who we now know is dead. We see, and we know, nothing of the living person you claim to feel for, do we?

[TheBigBasicQ]

*Throws his hands up in vain*
:normal:

[Mech1031]

*Throws his hands up in vain*

TBBQ, are you ever going to post something or just waste our time here... hifty:

anywho, I believe there is a bigger (slightly) bigger issue right now. and thats lachie's emotional wall toward city folk :wink: just kiddin, but the american media has to be the worst ever. they are allowed to put up anything they want. after the columbine shooting (mass murder of highschool students in colorado) they didn't show it at the time out of respect. but the second people stopped carring and had gotten over their loved ones death, the media bombarded us with footage. they even did a documentary on it. "bowling for columbine". it showed alot of the differences between american and canadian gun culture. ontario only had 3 gun murders in the past year, america had 70,000. over 20,000 of those murders were televised. none of the 3 were televised in canada. god i wish i were canadian