Another Look

[na_th_an]

More when DOS extenders are available since... 1990?

[Z!re]

Nek, i was kind of joking...

And ya, he kind of surprised me too.

[na_th_an]

This is why I say that MSDOS sucks so badly. i386 processors were released in 1986, I believe. MS should have make a DOS to take advantantage of the 32 bits architecture and the flat memory model. But they didn't. Instead of that, they kept patching and patching a horrid monster that only got worse and worse with time.

The fact that you need a dos extender is utterly lame. Mostly 'cause M$ released versions 5 and 6 of MSDOS still working in realmode when those extenders were available long time ago...

And then they released Win95 and 98 and ME which were working on top of this shit...

AW.

[BastetFurry]

This is why I say that MSDOS sucks so badly. i386 processors were released in 1986, I believe. MS should have make a DOS to take advantantage of the 32 bits architecture and the flat memory model. But they didn't. Instead of that, they kept patching and patching a horrid monster that only got worse and worse with time.

The fact that you need a dos extender is utterly lame. Mostly 'cause M$ released versions 5 and 6 of MSDOS still working in realmode when those extenders were available long time ago...

And then they released Win95 and 98 and ME which were working on top of this @£^$...

AW.

I would just be interesteted why all people where going to the x86 platform?
I was a child back then, but if i would have known everything i now know i would still have an Amiga with now 3 ghz and 1 GB Ram

BTW: Na_th_an, the second link in your sig is broken

[Antoni Gual]

I would just be interesteted why all people where going to the x86 platform?

Just because the PC was (and still is) an open industry standard (thanks, IBM...), and the Amiga was (is?) a closed single manufacturer developement. If the manufacturer goes in trouble is il.legal to clone it's machines...

[BastetFurry]

Just because the PC was (and still is) an open industry standard (thanks, IBM...), and the Amiga was (is?) a closed single manufacturer developement. If the manufacturer goes in trouble is il.legal to clone it's machines...

Ok, thats a point. But in the beginning the IBM-PC was copyrighted too, that caused other manifactures to get into some small incompatibilities.

But the problem with x86 is that everything that has something to do with multimedia is being thaught with a big big hammer

[steven_basic]

I would just be interested why all people were going to the x86 platform?

Consider the sheer number of "home" computers that were on the market: Apple, amiga, trash80, etc., that were designed as an entertainment console first and anything else second.

Then you had the "business" computers that were all number cruch and storage: IBM.

The most money being thrown around for computers (which at the time were super expensive compared to what you get today) were for the "business" machines.

Not wanting to loose any alternate cash influx, the IBM PC eventually began adding "enhancements" for sound, graphics, etc. to draw in the "home" user who, at that point, was already familiar with the IBM through contact with the machines at work.

[na_th_an]

In my country (at least) PCs were more and more used 'cause they got very cheap.

Plus what steven said: the "other" systems were considered "computers you can play with". PCs were considered "computers you can work with". As PCs got cheaper, many and many families could afford one.

Anyhow, although old 16 bits computers were cosidered "gaming platforms", that's not true. The Atari ST is still used in many recording studios and by many electronic music composers. It's small, you can carry it anywhere, and you can control all your MIDI instruments with it. Simply awesome.

[Antoni Gual]

Nathan: Where do musicians find their Atari ST machines nowadays?

[steven_basic]

And let's not forget about the Mac and its prevalence in video, audio and graphics art studios...