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QB Express Celebrates One Year: Issue #12 Released
#21
I just submitted an extensive bug report to Mozilla (bugzilla.mozilla.org).

The Bug # is: 301637

Here's my report:

Quote:Opened: 2005-07-21 15:54 PDT

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4

Build Identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4



Description:
I am the editor of a QuickBasic programming e-zine called QB Express (http://www.petesqbsite.com/sections/express) where we regularly publish large blocks of pre-formatted, indented source code using the <pre> tag. Since the source code is often wider than the box that contains it, I have applied the "overflow: auto" CSS attribute to the <pre> tag. As a result, the code boxes will scroll to the right if the source code is wider than the <blockquote> box that contains it.

For many months, readers have been complaining about random opaque gray boxes appearing on top of the text, obscuring everything below them, when they load issues of the magazine in FireFox. These appear nearly every time the page is loaded up, by every user, though they do not always appear in the same place.

You can see screen captures of them here (images will be available for 90 days):
http://fileanchor.com/1289
http://fileanchor.com/1290

About 90% of the time, the gray boxes will disappear if the user "clicks" with scroll-wheel button on their mouse somewhere in the margin to the side of the gray box. Other times, they will disappear when the page is refreshed or if the user scrolls up and down in the browser window very quickly. However, sometimes they will not disappear no matter what the user does.

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I have investigated this problem, and discovered that it also appears on other websites that include pre-formatted source code boxes. They tend to show up more often when the page is very long (50-200 printed pages in length). UbuntuGuide.org displays what appears to be the same problem:

http://www.ubuntuguide.org/

My site and UbuntuGuide are common in that we both use <pre style="overflow: auto"></pre> to enclose blocks of source code so that it will display within the set width of our layout (and not stretch out the whole layout and make it difficult to read).

I believe that using <pre>formatted text in conjunction with the overflow: auto CSS attribute triggers this problem.




Reproducible: Always




Steps to Reproduce:
1. In FireFox, load up:

http://www.petesqbsite.com/sections/expr...index.html

or

http://www.ubuntuguide.org/


2. Scroll down. Somewhere on the page there should be large opaque gray boxes obscuring part of the text. They appear almost every time you load up the page. If they don't appear at first, try refreshing.


3. If you would like to make the boxes disappear, try clicking with your mouse's scroll wheel in the margin of the page next to the gray box. If the box doesn't disappear, try refreshing the page or scrolling up and down quickly. For me, I can get the gray boxes to disappear 99% of the time.

Other users, however, have had different results: "Actually, the gray boxes appear in the same place for me always and don't go away with a middle-click..."




Actual Results:
You will see large gray boxes obscuring the text.

Chances are, you'll be able to make the boxes disappear with minimal effort, though this may not necessarily happen.




Expected Results:
No gray boxes should have appeared.
Pete's QB Site: http://www.petesqbsite.com
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#22
Thanks! Big Grin Let's hope they can reproduce and fix it.
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#23
Yeah, absolutely.

I searched through their archive of bug reports, and surprisingly, I didn't find this exact bug reported by anyone. I found a lot of errors with "gray boxes", but they all were different from the QB Express error and most of them had to do with form input and drop down menus and things of that nature.
Pete's QB Site: http://www.petesqbsite.com
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#24
Tongue Heh... like the stills, I've been growing curious what they looked like on the page.... Been wondering also.. With all these bug reports, is FF some sorta freeware?
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#25
Quote:With all these bug reports, is FF some sorta freeware?

what the lol?!?!?!?!
you did not just say that...
http://mozilla.org anyone? Tongue
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#26
Quote::P Heh... like the stills, I've been growing curious what they looked like on the page.... Been wondering also.. With all these bug reports, is FF some sorta freeware?
DEAR Z!RE!!!
AHH MY EYES!

How can you... ahhh!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox
ahem.
"free"
"open source"
"cross platform"


Look! "Firefox had its 50 millionth download, less than 6 months after the release of version 1.0."


If you seriously didn't know about firefox then you get outside too much


*is breathing heavily*


*cough*
anyways
nice job on QBExpress12
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#27
:o

Rattrap, aren't you the one that still uses the built in AOL browser? You must not have tried many other browsers then. Nothing tops FireFox in my book.

I've been using FireFox almost exclusively since...well...since before it was even called FireFox. I think I started with FireBird v0.4 or something like that.

I've also got IE, Opera, Avant Browser and Netscape installed too, for good measure. Smile
Pete's QB Site: http://www.petesqbsite.com
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#28
Yeah I also was using it since before 1.0

Though not early enough to get firebird =(
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#29
Tongue

I happily stay behind a IDE all day... not really caring for much else... My net hunting/researching abilities are often placed on hold unless I need really need something...

And no, I got to playing with my rusty old IE.. It runs these Forums better than AOL since it doesnt update the history every min, messing with the new posts... :roll: .. AOL 7.0's gif and jpg support sucks btw, I didn't notice that until I looked a jpg on my FTP compared to one the same 1 on IE.. XD (AOL 8.0 and higher crash my comp...)

Oh.. so my guesses where right? cool,. I might look into it... :lol:
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#30
I've heard the Fx for Mac isn't very good in terms of speed, which is why there's Camino and Safari (Safari isn't made by Mozilla)! Big Grin

I've been using Firefox since version 0.8. Propaganda truly does have an effect. Tongue
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I can't solve the gray box problem without messing up IE. I think I might just try recreating the QBE #12 page (long process, but probably worth it. . .) It could then use it as a template for future issues, if the gray boxes can be removed successfully without changing IE. A complete redesign may end up helping. Smile
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