PDS and XP

[Fumador]

i have read many times that trying to run QB45 in the XP or 2OOO systems have many problems; not being that way when using the PDS, i think PDS it's a better Quickbasic and would be better on any case to recommend the PDS to be used for those systems instead of QB45.

[Ralph]

I only have QuickBASIC 4.5, so, I don't know if other BASIC-based programs will have the same problem that I had with 4. and XP. But, after anguishing over my problem for some months, wich consisted in my screen minimizing a few seconds after running any program using any of the graphics screens. It was finally solved by not starting automatically one "running in the background" program. Since then, I have not had any problems with 4.5.

In short, my QuickBASIC 4.5 did not have any problem at all with XP, even though I so reported it!

If i were to recommend a BASIC-type program for beginners, I would sy, 4.5, by all means, until you learn it real well. Then, embrace FreeBasic!

[Fumador]

If i were to recommend a BASIC-type program for beginners,
I would sy, 4.5, by all means,
until you learn it real well. Then, embrace FreeBasic

i would prefer to recommend PDS after learning QB
and after PDS would recommend Visbasic for Dos;
all this until FB would reach the version 1.OO
and also will have a complete IDE for Dos.
an IDE for Dos it's very important for me.

[Ralph]

A freeBasic IDE for DOS? What is the present one that I use, called FBIde 0.4.2? Is it "for Windows"? How does one know?

[Fumador]

A freeBasic IDE for DOS?
What is the present one that I use, called FBIde 0.4.2?
Is it "for Windows"? How does one know?

the editor FBIde it works in a windows window,
a DOS editor like the Quickbasics editor
would work in a DOS window.

[Antoni Gual]

PDS has a lot of problems with non-english keyboards, displays a message agains the use of non-microsoft OS'es when started in Windows and its configuration is a little picky. I would never reccommend it to substitute QB4.5..
VBDOS works perfectly in W2000, I never had a problem with it. And you are not required to do "visual" programming , you can run plain QB programs with it.

[Fumador]

PDS has a lot of problems with non-english keyboards

yes, international keyboards support was disabled in PDS
and Vbdos, i am assuming that was for saving memory.

displays a message agains the use of non-microsoft OS'es
when started in Windows

that's why i love windows98se.

and its configuration is a little picky

i think it can be as simple as QB but some downloads are
in individual compacted files and still divided in diskettes.

VBDOS...And you are not required to do "visual" programming ,
you can run plain QB programs with it.

yes, that's something to highlight because QBers
think that the visual mode it's a must, but it is not.

[Antoni Gual]

that's why i love windows98se.

That's why you will have a lot of troubles if you decide some day to try FB. FB has been barely debuggerd in W98. Don't try it unless you update to W200 0 or XP or Vista

[Anonymous]

antoni? lol.

i've been developing LL in 98 for almost a year now. (maybe even a full year)

just a month ago i switched to ME...

[AlienQB]

How can you still be on Windows 98 and just have "upgraded" to ME? I can't believe anyone would even consider running such an old 32-bit extension for DOS as their primary OS. :wow:

Or are you running this in a virtual machine? The best way to run QB is on a stable operating system (that's a *NIX OS) through a virtual machine running a pure DOS environment.