Downloadable documentation?

[Moneo]

No problem. I wouldn't bother to print it yet though. As you said earlier, the manual would require unknown revisions, since the compiler is still evolving. It is frustrating sometimes, but we're in on the ground floor, sending input to the engineers, ya know? We could never do that if Microsoft was developing it. :king:

And that reminds me...
Has anyone else heard the rumor that Microsoft will be shipping a new version of QB with Vista?

Regarding printing it now, maybe I'll just print in light pencil, he,he.

I haven't heard about any QB in Vista. But, you can be sure that if they did something like that, it would be incompatible with our beloved QB, and would subsequently put the final nail into the coffin of our QB. Freebasic and all the other "new" Basics, would also follow closely behind. You can't compete with a potential audience of millions of Microsoft Windows users adopting this new QB.

[Antoni Gual]

It seems QBasic1.1 works more or less in Vista, provided you don't do graphics
http://www.network54.com/Forum/13959/mes...dows+Vista
Vista has a ntvdm more restricted than XP's.

[coderJeff]

Hi all.

Missed it by a few days: (Jun 11)

(Unofficial) FreeBasic Manual Download Page

http://frontpage.execulink.com/coder/freebasic/docs.asp

I plan to update the download every few weeks.

I wrote a program in freebasic to download pages from the freebasic wiki and convert to html/chm. I am currently working on a text version of the manual for DOS.

[relsoft]

Nice site @coderjeff. Downloading the CHM format. :*)

[coderJeff]

... something for the hardcore dos freaks.

fbhelp.exe (dos) and fbhelpw.exe (windows) console help viewer for FreeBASIC manual.

Still lots to do, but I would like to get feedback on how it runs under dos/windows and any feature requests.

Source under a GNU compatible license will eventually be available. Binaries only for this testing release.

Download available from my (Unoffiicial) FreeBASIC Manual page:
http://frontpage.execulink.com/coder/freebasic/docs.asp

Important keys: F1=DocToc, F2=readme, CTRL+X = Exit.

Thanks!

EDIT: Oops. I first built the download with an older snapshot of the wiki. For more recent wiki. Please DL again, sorry.

[Anonymous]

Whoa dude, now THIS is awesome!

I won't ever use it probably but still... Awesome XD


edit: i see you want feedback/testing. so i guess i WILL use it then ;]

edi2: 2 things i noticed so far (testing the DOS version under win ME)

1) at the bottom, there are some "·", I assume that is supposed to be replaced with some other symbol... but i dont know what. maybe "|" ?


2) When holding the mouse button and "scrolling" i.e. like if you were selecting a large group of text and moving off screen the thing scrolls WAY too fast; you'll instantly go from bottom to top if dragging up, and vice versa if going down ;]

edit3: clicking a link in the FAQ, makes the cursor jump to the title line but.. its on the BOTTOM of the screen... should be on the top, I think

edit4: i clicked on the "find more informatino on reading get/put buffers "HERE" thing, and there was no way back... x.x and then after screwing around in that window for a while dragging up and down quickly i caused a crash... =P



i like the look tho, very soft on the eyes, like qb's.

Really good idea...

[coderJeff]

The "·" is from a user putting html directly in the wiki topic: which works fine if the output format is html (chm), but not so good otherwise. I'll either have to parse html codes, or remove them from the wiki. grr.

heh, lightning-speed-scroll is not exactly useful: I can add a scroll delay and a side scroll bar.

I'll note the point about the anchors.

Edit: I tried really hard to pretend to be frustrated and scroll randomly, but, I couldn't produce the crash.

ESC or BACKSPACE, will return to a previous topic, and F1 goes to the start page.

Thanks for trying it out!

[Anonymous]

anytime.

post a version compiled with -g and i can attempt to reproduce the crash within gdb, if you'd like.

[DrV]

Looks really nice.

The Windows version on Windows XP (and probably any OS with a scrollable console - Windows 2000, etc.) has a slight problem - it apparently thinks the screen is as tall as the total scrollable buffer, not just the visible screen, so the bottom of the screen is way down at 300 lines. I assume this is because WIDTH returns the size of that scrollable region, which I remember being discussed a while ago - I'll see if I can dig that up; the current behavior seems somewhat useless. To avoid this, you could set the console size manually with WIDTH, but that seems non-optimal. Also, the scroll wheel doesn't work in full screen, but I think that is a known/possibly unsolvable problem. (The scroll wheel input should also work on "real" DOS with a CuteMouse 2.0+ mouse driver - I'll have to test this sometime. )

[tbbw]

... something for the hardcore dos freaks.

fbhelp.exe (dos) and fbhelpw.exe (windows) console help viewer for FreeBASIC manual.

Still lots to do, but I would like to get feedback on how it runs under dos/windows and any feature requests.

Source under a GNU compatible license will eventually be available. Binaries only for this testing release.

Download available from my (Unoffiicial) FreeBASIC Manual page:
http://frontpage.execulink.com/coder/freebasic/docs.asp

Important keys: F1=DocToc, F2=readme, CTRL+X = Exit.

Thanks!

EDIT: Oops. I first built the download with an older snapshot of the wiki. For more recent wiki. Please DL again, sorry.

hahahahaha now that has a nice qb feal to the manual