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death penalty - Z!re - 03-03-2004
Seker359 could you answer or reply to anything instead of just keep saying the same thing over and over.
You are not even defending, you just say: You are wrong and I am right.
Quote:Huge blanket statements regarding the U.S. people and their lifestyle from people that have no basis for it in their experience.I do not base my statements on propaganda or pull them out of thin air. I do indeed have experience of the US and their lifestyle, but I don't want to go into why and how, if you can't respect that then I'm done posting in this thread.
death penalty - SJ Zero - 03-03-2004
Quote:Just out of curiosity was it the gun reference or the biting sarcasm in the 3rd world reference that so offended your delicate sensibilities?
If you haven't figured it out after 11 pages, I won't be able to make you understand now. Enjoy your discussion.
death penalty - Agamemnus - 03-03-2004
Quote:... I do indeed have experience of the US and their lifestyle, but I don't want to go into why and how ...
That's fine. The thing is, see, you can't define "experience of the US and their lifestyle". The US is just like your country and just like any country: filled with a lot of paranoid delusional maniacs. The majority, though, know what's cooking, which is why inflammatory statements have never gotten anyone anywhere except to ruin.
death penalty - SJ Zero - 03-03-2004
Or in Rick Mercers case, to a successful career in Television.
death penalty - Seker359 - 03-03-2004
Quote:Seker359 could you answer or reply to anything instead of just keep saying the same thing over and over.
My focus during the last part of this thread was on the statements made about the U.S. culture. The people doing the critisizing seem to bounce between culture and government policy. Your last post appeared to be entirely about policy and since I usually agree with the statements about policy I have no reason to comment on them.
The reason I keep repeating myself is because no one seems to get it. If you don't live in a place then you don't know anything about the people, their attitudes, or lifestyles. To classify everyone as having a gun fetish or everyone has to compete against his neighbor is rubbish. Sure there's some of that in the U.S. but there's some of that in a lot of places.
death penalty - na_th_an - 03-03-2004
I didn't mean to say that everyone loved guns in the U.S.A. (thanks god!) But many people do and it is legal: that's the problem. I don't like to generalize. Sometimes I do, pardon me. I stand corrected in those cases...
But that nipple issue you had some weeks ago... C'mon, people. A singer shows a nipple and the whole country goes haywire. I mean: there is some kind of permisive culture about violence (war outside the country is OK to protect the country (??); guns are needed; sometimes it's better to be a sportsman than a true student in college...), but people seem to be extra-protective when something has to do with sex (heh - not with sex, but with anatomy. The whole show had more sex involved before the nipple "accident" than on the accident itself). I think that a young child is way more impaired by his dad showing him how to hold a gun and how he must shoot another men rather than seeing a nipple, which is just a piece of darker skin that measures 1 square inch that is located in the chest of people.
I know that not 100% of people in the U.S.A. are this way (thanks god!) but if such a stupid event has caused so many problems that means something.
death penalty - adosorken - 03-03-2004
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The fact that violence is more accepted in the US than anything of a sexual nature is the direct result of the Christian infection.
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Sheesh, I can't believe you people are still debating this topic.
death penalty - na_th_an - 03-03-2004
Lol...
Okay, let's move on. Another topic.
death penalty - Seker359 - 03-03-2004
Quote:A singer shows a nipple and the whole country goes haywire.
Actually that's a pretty good example of what I was saying about viewing things through the media filter. Almost no in the U.S. cared about that at all. But the media takes something and blows it up bigger than it's worth. And much of that is what gets projectd to other countries.
death penalty - TheBigBasicQ - 03-03-2004
I agree, the media does blow up things out of proportion =(.
Nek: Dont insult any religion even if you disklike it very much. I disagree insulting any religion because the religion isnt bad but a few rogues give it a bad name.