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Quote:How do people get PhD's BA's or MA's? Taking tests most the time, right? By your reasoning tests = "they prove nothing more than the ability to answer (or guess) a multiple choice test, and how well you memorize shyt." therefore PhD's BA's or MA's are meaning less.
Uh.....i think you missed what i said. Standarized tests are for the schools, aka elementary, middle and high school. Once you are in college, evaluation is different. Also, in the MA and PhD level, there are usaully little to no tests. The evaluation is done with papers, reflexive work, portfolios, presentations, etc.

Quote:Ok I was playing around with that Big Grin but think about it. What I’m saying is that you need to create incentive so that the teacher with those PhD's BA's or MA's can be gathered up at a school to make it have higher potential of educating. That makes sense right? The more educated PhD's BA's or MA’s teachers you have the ‘better’ they should be. PhD's BA's or MA's are good but you don’t need one to be educated enough to teach someone. It shows you should be able to teach.

In the public school system, a BA in pedogogy and in a certain concentration (elementary education, science, english, etc) is required in order to be certified to teach in a school. Teachers who are not certified can be substitute teachers, but cannot teach in a regular classroom.

Quote:Yes it is hard to compare public school to private school.

Parents need to care about their kids. Public schools need to raise the bar on standards too. If students don’t do work, act accordingly and are not productive then they are wasting time and money therefore should not be in school. The alternate? Well send them to some other place. I know it sound bad but I can’t think up any thing at the moment, doesn’t mean I’m not concerned for them. The government is not meant to be reasonable for parents to raise their kids the right way, but has to deal with them because of poor parenting.

Many discipline problems are caused by boredom. Vocational schools could solve this problem in its mayority, but in some places these schools dont exist.

Quote:If a public school is short on paper, they should have paper; give them the money for the paper. If they don’t have enough cookies in the teacher room then don’t give them money to buy cookies. You fallow? Over crowding of schools need to be dealt with. The simple answer is build more schools get more good teachers. I’m for that. It seems that schools keep asking for more money, they get it, but nothing happens! That’s my side of it.

Becuz of standarized tests, many poor performance schools are getting less money, and higher performance schools are receiving more money. Also, there have been massive educational budget cuts becuz this money has been redirected to the military and other "federal programs" that Bush has decided that should receive money. Schools just dont demand money and automatically get it. Have you ever done a project proposal for Title I, V or other federal program? The requirements and processes are so lengthy it'll make you cry.

Aga:
Obviously i am not comparing every private and public school. There are exceptions to the rule. I was in a private catholic school for a year, and I received a decent education. I went to public school almost all my life in Texas, Florida and PR. I remember when Daddy Bush decided to do the whole voucher thing, affecting the school I was attending, which was a special public school for advanced students. Most of what the school had was through corporate donations, and not govt funding. Vouchers werent very helpful at all and we all protested against it.

As for private universities, they are no longer under the scutiny of the govt, hence are free to do what they like as long as they follow federal regulation in terms of usage of the pell grant and other federal helps for students. Since attending universities is by choice, you accept whatever you pay for in that uni. You cant compare private schools and private colleges.

As for discipline problems in private schools, there are discipline problems everywhere. However the problem is amplified in public schools becuz of the population difference between a public and private school. A private school may have the number of students that one grade has in a middle or high school.

As I had said before, federal law requires schools to give everyone a free education, no matter what. If a student is suspended or expelled, the parent can push hard to make the school board overturn their decision. In a private school, they arent subjected to a school board, and by being a private organization, they are allowed free association with whomever they please, and there isnt a damn thing the govt can do about it. As for evidence, you can just look up articles in educational journals, there are plenty that address this issue.
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death penalty - by Diroga - 02-19-2004, 10:39 AM
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death penalty - by toonski84 - 02-19-2004, 06:37 PM
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death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-19-2004, 06:57 PM
death penalty - by Zap - 02-19-2004, 07:45 PM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-19-2004, 07:57 PM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-19-2004, 08:50 PM
death penalty - by oracle - 02-20-2004, 02:11 AM
death penalty - by Plasma - 02-20-2004, 02:31 AM
death penalty - by oracle - 02-20-2004, 02:41 AM
death penalty - by Plasma - 02-20-2004, 03:11 AM
death penalty - by Zack - 02-20-2004, 03:18 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-20-2004, 03:20 AM
death penalty - by Rokkuman - 02-20-2004, 03:36 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-20-2004, 04:06 AM
death penalty - by barok - 02-20-2004, 05:29 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-20-2004, 05:40 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-20-2004, 05:52 AM
death penalty - by webberboy - 02-20-2004, 05:59 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-20-2004, 06:02 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-20-2004, 06:07 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-20-2004, 06:49 AM
death penalty - by Diroga - 02-20-2004, 07:05 AM
death penalty - by Zack - 02-20-2004, 07:08 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-20-2004, 07:16 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-20-2004, 07:17 AM
death penalty - by Zack - 02-20-2004, 07:21 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-20-2004, 07:23 AM
death penalty - by Zack - 02-20-2004, 07:26 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-20-2004, 07:37 AM
death penalty - by Zack - 02-20-2004, 07:42 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-20-2004, 07:48 AM
death penalty - by Diroga - 02-20-2004, 08:25 AM
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death penalty - by Diroga - 02-20-2004, 09:42 AM
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death penalty - by oracle - 02-21-2004, 03:45 AM
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death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-21-2004, 10:05 PM
death penalty - by aetherfox - 02-21-2004, 10:59 PM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-21-2004, 11:04 PM
death penalty - by KiZ - 02-22-2004, 12:30 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-22-2004, 01:20 AM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 02-22-2004, 01:46 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-22-2004, 02:01 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-22-2004, 02:20 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-22-2004, 02:29 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-22-2004, 02:36 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-22-2004, 02:39 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-22-2004, 02:50 AM
death penalty - by KiZ - 02-22-2004, 02:55 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-22-2004, 02:55 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-22-2004, 02:58 AM
death penalty - by KiZ - 02-22-2004, 03:06 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-22-2004, 03:27 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-22-2004, 03:38 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-22-2004, 03:49 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-22-2004, 03:51 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-22-2004, 09:29 AM
death penalty - by Diroga - 02-22-2004, 10:29 AM
death penalty - by aetherfox - 02-22-2004, 06:09 PM
death penalty - by KiZ - 02-22-2004, 06:14 PM
death penalty - by Z!re - 02-22-2004, 07:09 PM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-22-2004, 09:07 PM
death penalty - by aetherfox - 02-22-2004, 09:21 PM
death penalty - by KiZ - 02-22-2004, 09:24 PM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-22-2004, 09:25 PM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-22-2004, 09:42 PM
death penalty - by KiZ - 02-22-2004, 09:43 PM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-22-2004, 10:03 PM
death penalty - by aetherfox - 02-22-2004, 10:05 PM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-22-2004, 10:11 PM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-22-2004, 10:17 PM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-22-2004, 10:49 PM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-22-2004, 10:57 PM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-22-2004, 11:01 PM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-22-2004, 11:04 PM
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death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-22-2004, 11:35 PM
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death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-23-2004, 12:00 AM
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death penalty - by adosorken - 02-23-2004, 12:14 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-23-2004, 12:18 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-23-2004, 12:24 AM
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death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-23-2004, 12:29 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-23-2004, 12:30 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-23-2004, 12:31 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-23-2004, 12:38 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-23-2004, 12:38 AM
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death penalty - by adosorken - 02-23-2004, 12:41 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-23-2004, 12:42 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-23-2004, 12:43 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-23-2004, 12:47 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-23-2004, 12:52 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-23-2004, 12:54 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-23-2004, 12:57 AM
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death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-23-2004, 01:07 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-23-2004, 01:09 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-23-2004, 01:12 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-23-2004, 01:16 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-23-2004, 01:17 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-23-2004, 01:23 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-23-2004, 01:29 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-23-2004, 01:45 AM
death penalty - by oracle - 02-23-2004, 02:52 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-23-2004, 02:56 AM
death penalty - by oracle - 02-23-2004, 02:57 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-23-2004, 03:04 AM
death penalty - by oracle - 02-23-2004, 03:07 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-23-2004, 03:26 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-23-2004, 03:38 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-23-2004, 04:10 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-23-2004, 04:17 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-23-2004, 04:31 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-23-2004, 04:42 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-23-2004, 04:44 AM
death penalty - by oracle - 02-23-2004, 05:42 AM
death penalty - by SJ Zero - 02-23-2004, 07:37 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-23-2004, 07:45 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-23-2004, 05:22 PM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-23-2004, 06:45 PM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-23-2004, 06:54 PM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-23-2004, 07:20 PM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-23-2004, 08:09 PM
death penalty - by aetherfox - 02-23-2004, 08:14 PM
death penalty - by Z!re - 02-23-2004, 08:56 PM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-23-2004, 09:17 PM
death penalty - by red_Marvin - 02-23-2004, 09:27 PM
death penalty - by Z!re - 02-23-2004, 10:11 PM
death penalty - by Zack - 02-23-2004, 10:52 PM
death penalty - by aetherfox - 02-23-2004, 11:17 PM
death penalty - by SJ Zero - 02-23-2004, 11:28 PM
death penalty - by oracle - 02-24-2004, 12:57 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-24-2004, 03:53 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-24-2004, 04:00 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-24-2004, 04:28 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-24-2004, 04:35 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-24-2004, 04:47 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-24-2004, 05:46 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-24-2004, 06:12 AM
death penalty - by Z!re - 02-24-2004, 08:23 AM
death penalty - by SJ Zero - 02-24-2004, 09:55 AM
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death penalty - by aetherfox - 02-24-2004, 08:42 PM
death penalty - by TheBigBasicQ - 02-24-2004, 11:04 PM
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death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-24-2004, 11:40 PM
death penalty - by TheBigBasicQ - 02-24-2004, 11:49 PM
death penalty - by SJ Zero - 02-25-2004, 01:37 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-25-2004, 02:32 AM
death penalty - by oracle - 02-25-2004, 03:23 AM
death penalty - by SJ Zero - 02-25-2004, 03:25 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-25-2004, 06:30 AM
death penalty - by Diroga - 02-25-2004, 07:08 AM
death penalty - by RST - 02-25-2004, 08:08 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-25-2004, 08:18 AM
death penalty - by RST - 02-25-2004, 08:21 AM
death penalty - by Z!re - 02-25-2004, 12:52 PM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-25-2004, 04:38 PM
death penalty - by TheBigBasicQ - 02-25-2004, 04:45 PM
death penalty - by Plasma - 02-25-2004, 10:23 PM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-25-2004, 10:38 PM
death penalty - by Plasma - 02-25-2004, 10:43 PM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-25-2004, 10:57 PM
death penalty - by aetherfox - 02-25-2004, 11:35 PM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-25-2004, 11:37 PM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-25-2004, 11:37 PM
death penalty - by RST - 02-26-2004, 06:13 AM
death penalty - by PlayGGY - 02-26-2004, 06:39 AM
death penalty - by Diroga - 02-26-2004, 08:32 AM
death penalty - by Z!re - 02-26-2004, 08:51 AM
death penalty - by red_Marvin - 02-26-2004, 03:03 PM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-26-2004, 04:17 PM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-26-2004, 05:07 PM
death penalty - by RST - 02-26-2004, 09:35 PM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-26-2004, 10:04 PM
death penalty - by webberboy - 02-26-2004, 10:24 PM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 02-26-2004, 10:37 PM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-26-2004, 10:52 PM
death penalty - by TheBigBasicQ - 02-26-2004, 11:10 PM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-26-2004, 11:21 PM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-26-2004, 11:29 PM
death penalty - by aetherfox - 02-27-2004, 12:32 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-27-2004, 01:06 AM
death penalty - by Plasma - 02-27-2004, 01:16 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-27-2004, 01:35 AM
death penalty - by toonski84 - 02-27-2004, 01:53 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-27-2004, 02:11 AM
death penalty - by oracle - 02-27-2004, 02:47 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-27-2004, 03:02 AM
death penalty - by oracle - 02-27-2004, 03:06 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-27-2004, 03:09 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-27-2004, 03:38 AM
death penalty - by RST - 02-27-2004, 05:21 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 02-27-2004, 05:26 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-27-2004, 05:38 AM
death penalty - by RST - 02-27-2004, 05:52 AM
death penalty - by Plasma - 02-27-2004, 06:15 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-27-2004, 06:16 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 02-27-2004, 06:22 AM
death penalty - by Plasma - 02-27-2004, 11:03 AM
death penalty - by SJ Zero - 02-27-2004, 12:52 PM
death penalty - by toonski84 - 02-27-2004, 12:57 PM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-27-2004, 05:24 PM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 02-27-2004, 06:14 PM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 02-27-2004, 06:48 PM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-27-2004, 07:26 PM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 02-27-2004, 09:10 PM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-27-2004, 09:53 PM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 02-27-2004, 10:28 PM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 02-27-2004, 10:39 PM
death penalty - by toonski84 - 02-27-2004, 11:32 PM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 02-27-2004, 11:53 PM
death penalty - by toonski84 - 02-28-2004, 01:13 AM
death penalty - by RST - 02-28-2004, 02:50 AM
death penalty - by TheBigBasicQ - 02-28-2004, 02:58 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 02-28-2004, 03:27 AM
death penalty - by toonski84 - 02-28-2004, 06:46 AM
death penalty - by TheBigBasicQ - 02-28-2004, 01:21 PM
death penalty - by SJ Zero - 02-28-2004, 08:21 PM
death penalty - by TheBigBasicQ - 03-01-2004, 12:44 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 03-01-2004, 01:13 AM
death penalty - by TheBigBasicQ - 03-01-2004, 01:15 AM
death penalty - by Z!re - 03-01-2004, 02:31 AM
death penalty - by TheBigBasicQ - 03-01-2004, 12:11 PM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 03-01-2004, 07:36 PM
death penalty - by TheBigBasicQ - 03-01-2004, 09:04 PM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 03-01-2004, 10:04 PM
death penalty - by SJ Zero - 03-02-2004, 12:15 AM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 03-02-2004, 01:48 AM
death penalty - by Z!re - 03-02-2004, 04:25 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 03-02-2004, 04:49 AM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 03-02-2004, 07:11 AM
death penalty - by Z!re - 03-02-2004, 09:36 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 03-02-2004, 05:23 PM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 03-02-2004, 06:23 PM
death penalty - by TheBigBasicQ - 03-02-2004, 07:25 PM
death penalty - by RST - 03-02-2004, 10:39 PM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 03-02-2004, 11:33 PM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 03-03-2004, 12:20 AM
death penalty - by Z!re - 03-03-2004, 03:53 AM
death penalty - by SJ Zero - 03-03-2004, 04:26 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 03-03-2004, 05:21 AM
death penalty - by SJ Zero - 03-03-2004, 05:23 AM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 03-03-2004, 08:22 PM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 03-03-2004, 08:36 PM
death penalty - by adosorken - 03-03-2004, 09:40 PM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 03-03-2004, 10:01 PM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 03-03-2004, 10:52 PM
death penalty - by TheBigBasicQ - 03-03-2004, 11:38 PM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 03-04-2004, 01:56 AM
death penalty - by TheBigBasicQ - 03-04-2004, 01:58 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 03-04-2004, 01:59 AM
death penalty - by TheBigBasicQ - 03-04-2004, 02:02 AM
death penalty - by Seker359 - 03-04-2004, 02:21 AM
death penalty - by SJ Zero - 03-04-2004, 03:32 AM
death penalty - by SJ Zero - 03-04-2004, 03:33 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 03-04-2004, 05:30 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 03-04-2004, 05:48 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 03-04-2004, 05:14 PM
death penalty - by RST - 03-04-2004, 09:19 PM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 03-04-2004, 09:25 PM
death penalty - by RST - 03-04-2004, 09:28 PM
death penalty - by adosorken - 03-04-2004, 11:24 PM
death penalty - by SJ Zero - 03-05-2004, 03:11 AM
death penalty - by RST - 03-05-2004, 06:03 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 03-05-2004, 06:10 AM
death penalty - by Rhiannon - 03-05-2004, 06:22 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 03-05-2004, 07:24 AM
death penalty - by Z!re - 03-05-2004, 02:36 PM
death penalty - by SJ Zero - 03-05-2004, 10:23 PM
death penalty - by adosorken - 03-06-2004, 02:12 AM
death penalty - by Agamemnus - 03-06-2004, 02:51 AM
death penalty - by na_th_an - 03-06-2004, 08:58 AM
death penalty - by adosorken - 03-06-2004, 05:24 PM
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