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[b]Even if somehow the spin flip was instantaneous (which I don't believe)[b]

Nonono, the idea is that the probability wave describing the two photons collapses the moment that someone measures the spin of one of the photons. So there is an "effect" (probability wave collapsing) that happens instantaneously. However, this event doesn't travel faster than light because the probability wave wasn't really there in the first place. It was just a matter of measurement.

Or at least that's what I get from it.

just differrently. No one observes a probability wave. A big problem with quantum mechanics (or the teaching of it) is that it tends to blur the distinction between observations of reality and the reality itself.

That's the idea of it being "quantum" ;*)

eevil.

Aw, damn, who dug this thread back up?

i did.

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i am not gonna sacrifice myself for a wandering curmudgeon, however.

(No offense, REALLY)