Oblivion

[Deleter]

Yes z!re, and I am sure there are commercial games that are stable as well, Oblivion is just not one of them. Ntm, you cited one example, that doesn't mean alot. And even if the general fb games array is more stable, you might want to sit back and think about it. Most FB games either copy game ideas (as far as engine, I'm not saying they are all clones) that are at least a decade old. The technology that goes into an fb game is so old that if it was not stable, it would just mean the laziest programmer ever. Oblivion pushes the envolope on numerous fronts. Graphics wise, Oblivion is the most immersive (minus the crappy lip synching) and best looking game. In my opinion, it looks better than HL2 or Doom 3, even if that is just because they know what the word variance means. The almost complete openness of the game is another thing fb game programmers simply dream of. The AI system is more advanced than most games today. The combat system is very fluid and manages to do something few if any games have achieved before it with such eloquence. Damn, its a wonder they even got it out the door at all, with all the things they crammed in there.

So why does it crash on some peoples systems? Because when it does work, it is a piece of art. You seem to forget the fact its the publishers or money constraints that push games out the door, not developers. No one spends five years on a game and then says "fuck it, I will just release this pos and give up on it", and if they do they won't be working on games much longer. Seeing as this is the 4th game in the series, I don't think thats how Bethesda works...

I can understand your negative take on the form it was released on, as it did not work on your system, or barely did. If the same thing happened to me I would probably never have started this thread, or would have done so in the opposite side. In any case you seem to be blaming the wrong people, as it is the publishers who do this. Sure, the developers could scale back the project and give you an updated morrowind, or they could try something new and seriously kick ass...Personally I am glad they chose the latter.