Share opinions re best MS-DOS Utilities

[red_Marvin]

Norton Commander

Comment: Maybe It's a part of norton utilities integrator I dont know...

[Moneo]

Norton Commander --- it rings a bell, but I can't remember exactly what it does.
The Norton Integrator (NI) was sort of a "help" of all Norton's standalone utilities, which explained how to use each of them and also let you execute them from a pseudo command line, like a mini DOS shell.
The Norton Integrator version 4.5 that I still use did not have a referemce to the Norton Commander. I suspect this came out in later versions and was probably a more robust shell. I don't know.

Tell us how it works.
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[na_th_an]

Ahhh - the good ol' NC



I will always use it

[Zack]

Debug. Gotta love it, guys.

[Moneo]

NA_TH_AN: How did you "capture" the NC screen with colors, borders, etc. while in DOS? NC didn't do things I wanted, so I wrote my own called !DO.EXE. I wanted to show you the screen, but I don't know how.

ZACK: Don't become enamored with debug programs. You should very rarely have to use a debugger if you write good code. Back in the old days, we debugged by taking a memory dump. I stopped taking dumps on the IBM 360 way back, because they were a bear to understand. Since then, I have never taken a dump or used a debugger. The main thing is to get your program to produce some output. Once you've got output, you don't need a debugger --- the output tells you what's going on. This also implies creating some intelligent test data. Of course, this is my own personal experience and opinion.
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[toonski84]

Moneo, if you're using windows just put the dos screen in a window and press "printscreen". Then use a paint program to crop out the rest of the screen except for (wala) the screenshot.

[Moneo]

I need more details. When you hit "PrintScreen", where does the image go, or where is it stored? What paint program do you mean?
How do I connect the image to the paint program?
I'm not good with Windows.
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[toonski84]

It copies an image of the screen to the clipboard. If you go to any paint program, like MS-Paint, and click edit->paste, it will paste the image from the clipboard. Then you click file->save and choose a web format like GIF or JPG. (if you dont have these options, save it as a BMP and reply saying so).

[DrV]

of course, you can't capture most graphics applications, because they must run fullscreen... they also probably have weird custom palettes, so you wouldn't be helped much anyway.

[na_th_an]

In such cases I use ST (Screen Thief) or NEOGRAB (the grabbing utility which comes with the DOS version of Neopaint).