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#21
Jonathan,
The system which you describe is really not an inventory system, as you say " since we should not have anything in stock to begin with... ". I would call it an Order Entry system coupled with an item file having reorder levels. However, there's nothing wrong with doing it as you described, especially if it works for you.

I have seen "real" inventory systems, those that do have stock, which also handle a situation similar to yours for certain exceptional items which they call OTO (Order to Order). These OTO items, like yours, have no stock. When an customer order comes in for one of these items, they order the items from the factory or the vendor, and when they come into stock (momentarily) they immediately ship the items out to the customer.

The minor difference is that while these OTO items are pending receipt from the factory or vendor, the On-Hand-Balance in the inventory is not set to a negative. That is, the Order Entry System handles the pending receipts, and the actually inventory is not used for this purpose and sits with an On-Hand-Balance of zero, which is exactly what you have in stock right now.

Although I've never been involved with this type of item, I agree with the way you say POS handles partial counts, like selling material by the yard.
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BTW, my favorite question regarding POS is: "What is the most important benefit of a POS system?"

Most people will answer Perpetual Inventory or Automatic Replenishment or Sales Statistics or Centralized Distribution, etc.

The actual answer is simply THE ELIMINATION OF UNDER-RINGS.
Under-rings are when a cashier rings up an item at a price which is under the price which the store intented to sell the item. In a store without POS this occurs for many reasons like the item is ticketed at 14.95 and the cashier enters 4.95. Of course, the customer says nothing and the store just lost money on this item. The error could also be that the item was ticketed wrong, or had no price and the cashier picked a wrong price, or the item was previously on sale and had an old sale price, or the customer switched prices.

Some years ago a major marketing firm did a survey of US stores without POS, and discovered that they were losing between 0.5 and 1.5% of their gross sales due to under-rings. That's very impressive because some supermarkets operate at a 2-3% profit margin.

The majority of large and small stores that have POS today have forgotten or were never aware of the main benefit of elimination of under-rings. Sadly, these businesses are trying to cut down on POS hardware and software costs, instead of rejoicing over this major benefit as well as many other business related benefits of a POS system.

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#22
At the supermarket where I work, your problem with underings is not solved. Rather, it is transferred upstairs to the ladies who add items to the "repository" of items to sell. So if the item is added up there at a smaller price, it gets transferred out to the shelves if nobody checks, and us checkers ring it on at the reduced price without knowing the difference.
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#23
Interesting, Moneo...
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Quote:At the supermarket where I work, your problem with underings is not solved. Rather, it is transferred upstairs to the ladies who add items to the "repository" of items to sell. So if the item is added up there at a smaller price, it gets transferred out to the shelves if nobody checks, and us checkers ring it on at the reduced price without knowing the difference.
I assume your supermarket has POS. You're right, if these ladies are assigning item prices for PLU (price lookup) by the registers, and they put in the wrong price, then you're back to the original problem. Adding item prices to the system should be a two step operation --- enter and verify, or as they say in the banking industry, maker and checker. The problem with this solution is that it requires a substantial system change.

Another way to verify the prices is to check them after the fact. All new items with their selling price get to the store on some sort of a report or listing. Someone should walk around the store with a portable terminal (like a Telzon or a Symbol) holding the new item listing, and check the selling price of each of these unique items every time new ones hit the store. The person who does this function is called a Price Checker. He earns his pay in gold. When he's not checking new items, he checks other items, department by department.

Without the correct prices the store could be losing its shirt, and as you say, "without knowing the difference".

I'm going to have to come down to NZ and straighten out your store. As they say in the business, I'll come down to "empower" the store people. Gee, that would be fun!

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Quote:Interesting, Moneo...
Thanks, Aga. POS, and every related system that it implies, is truly an intricate world of its own, and very interesting.
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#26
Heh - I'm not even sure how much of a problem it is Wink

We use POS-ware, version 7.3.4B AFAIK. I wonder who makes that...
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#27
Oracle,
It would take an audit to know the extent of the problem.
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#28
Oracle, you must work in the Foodstuffs chain Big Grin

How do I know? Because I am from New Zealand also and work at Pak n Save New Plymouth. We also use POSware, I have been unable to find an online presence for the company, as I would love to get in and play with the other parts of the program other than the boring old POS frontend lol.

On a side note: most pricing is delivered on disk or via email to my knowledge, even the pricing tickets are posted to the stores. However sometimes the pricing update files are obviously incorrect or miss something out.

Coincidentally I also work with jsimpson on the DHPOS project, namely moderating the forum/chatroom and writing the Payroll addon.

Nice to meet a fellow Kiwi in an unlikely place on such common ground :p
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#29
Heh, our malls here use POSware. :*)
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http://www.posware.co.nz/

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