02-25-2004, 01:50 PM
I did what? :???:
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red_marvin did it, ans so can I...
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02-25-2004, 11:26 PM
Quote:Ralfie Brown has long had the net's definitive interrupt list.Ralf Brown is the uncrowned king of the PC. Hands down.
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02-25-2004, 11:52 PM
Then let's crown him:
:king: Btw all, here it is... Crappy picture, taken with a webcam, but still, I am so bloody freakin' excited. COMES WITH MASM 6.15 FULL! And examples, tons more...aaaah...
f only life let you press CTRL-Z.
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02-25-2004, 11:55 PM
The neat thing about MASM 6 is that later you can take that knowledge and use MASM32 (not made by Microsoft though) to make Windows applications. Identical syntax, afaik.
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02-26-2004, 12:00 AM
Um. MASM compiles 32-bit Windows apps. At least, it teaches 32-bit protected-mem coding in the book, and assembles with MASM 6.15.
f only life let you press CTRL-Z.
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02-26-2004, 12:09 AM
Quote:Um. MASM compiles 32-bit Windows apps. At least, it teaches 32-bit protected-mem coding in the book, and assembles with MASM 6.15. 32-bit protected mode isnt Windows, it's......protected mode.
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02-26-2004, 12:18 AM
'Tis what I meant, m'dearie.
My point is, you certainly can assembly Windows apps with MASM 6.15.
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02-26-2004, 12:22 AM
It's a pretty decent book, but I wouldn't trust MASM 6.15 with Windows applications. And 32 bit protected mode isn't the same as a Windows application...when one says "32 bit protected mode", it means it's an app that runs in DOS protected mode. When one says a Win32 application, that's different. Like I was saying though...you can use that knowledge of MASM 6 with the more modern MASM32 when you want to do Windows programming. You can chance it with MASM 6.15, but I wouldn't if I were you... Hence why I hinted to a better assembler MASM32 is what I'm using for final assembly in OBDS. It's an awesome little workhorse
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02-26-2004, 12:28 AM
What's wrong with MASM's Windows assembling? Seemed to work fine.
And...thanks for clearing up that confusion about protected mode being different from Windows Apps. Then I have a question about DOS protected mode. How do you do stuff like put pixels without interrupts, if you can't access vid memory?
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02-26-2004, 12:34 AM
For SVGA modes and stuff, you have a large buffer in memory that is, from what I understand, like a large 13h (all points accessable in one huge array, so to speak). I don't use pmode DOS so I don't know details, you might want to look at Allegro's sourcecode or find nifty articles on the 'net. Suggestion: find the Black Book (sp?) by Abrash.
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