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Flight simulators, without a Joystick, are almost impossible to play. You just need analog controls, plus a ton of buttons.
Btw, about the 17+ stuff in HL2, if you play Call of Duty I guess it's okay that you play HL2. HL2 is not more violent than Call of Duty. What's the rating for Call Of Duty over there? Here both games are rated 17+.
What's really odd is that RTC Wolfenstein is rated 12+, when I find that it can be as violent and scary as HL2 or Call Of Duty...
Strange ratings, aren't they?
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Quote:Halo is for 10 years old children. Go for HL2/Doom ]|[.
Dammit! Stop Flamebaiting! :x
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Quote:SJ Zero Wrote:The Intel Extreme chip will probably pose a barrier to playing any of those games.
If I recall, Battlefield relies on Hardware T&L, something the Intel Extreme, for all it's pixel pushing might, does not have. Many games will let you run them anyway, but some, like battlefield, will flip you the bird for trying. I'm sure it's not the only one.
The lack of hardware T&L could pose a serious problem. Luckily for you, chips using somethig *WITH* T&L are available cheap like borsht, even in PCI formfactor if you bought the 499CDN dell. 
I recall asking the computer pusher who sold us this computer if it had an AGP slot, and he said no. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that mean that in order to replace the graphics card, I'd have to replace the motherboard?
Nath: Doom III is out of the question graphics-card wise, and that I understand and accept. I'd do Half Life 2, but it's a tad on the expensive side, and rated 17+, so it could be a problem.
Right now I'm looking at Call of Duty (reenacting ground battles of WWII) and Combat Flight Simulator 3 (CF3). I think it'll be CF3 unless I find out that it's impossible to play without a joystick. Anyone?
Though you won't be able to get the latest and greatest performance, There are a few decent, reasonably new PCI 3d accelerator cards.
The one I'd go for is the Geforce FX5200 PCI. For 70.00USD you'll have full DX9 support, driver updates forever through ForceWare, and an assurance that nearly any game you play for the next 2-3 years is likely to play in some capacity.
For 100.00USDl, you can get a 128MB Geforce FX 5700LE. That's getting into the "that's a lot of video card to be putting on a 33Mhz PCI bus" range of video cards.
ATIs are harder to shop for because they've embraced PCI-X, which isn't PCI at all. The best I could find from them was a Radeon 9250 with 256MB DDR. I don't understand ATIs naming scheme so I can't say much about this one.
All in all, in spite of the performance hit of losing AGP support, there is still plenty of performance to be had and more importantly, compatibility, with a PCI video card.
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Quote:na_th_an Wrote:Halo is for 10 years old children. Go for HL2/Doom ]|[.
Dammit! Stop Flamebaiting! :x
Man, don't feel so concerned. You like it, I don't like it. You didn't code it, I'm not attacking you. If you come here and bitch about Quake 1, which I love, I wouldn't feel attacked.
Alex Kidd or Mario World are also for 10 years old children and I still play those games.
Look at the rating of Halo. "All Audiences", so I am not lying. I explained this a bit ago: I prefer games for adults. I like feeling stress and fear while I am playing.
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Quote:Flight simulators, without a Joystick, are almost impossible to play. You just need analog controls, plus a ton of buttons.
Btw, about the 17+ stuff in HL2, if you play Call of Duty I guess it's okay that you play HL2. HL2 is not more violent than Call of Duty. What's the rating for Call Of Duty over there? Here both games are rated 17+.
What's really odd is that RTC Wolfenstein is rated 12+, when I find that it can be as violent and scary as HL2 or Call Of Duty...
Strange ratings, aren't they?
Strange they are, indeed. :o
SJ: So what you're saying is I could still use a different video card even though I don't have this legendary AGP slot?
And Quake I is my favorite game after RTCW.
f only life let you press CTRL-Z.
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I believe that you can find Geforce 2 and Geforce 3 in PCI version. They don't have great performance, but they surely will do better than your current car.
Look at this: I could play RTCW on a PIII 500 and a Voodoo3 2000 PCI card just fine.
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Why would he want a gf2 or gf3 when he can buy an FX in PCI form for less than a hundred bucks?
Zack:Yes. The machine may not have AGP slots, but it certainly has PCI slots. They're slower, but they'll do the trick.
I hated quake 1 until I got the right mods.
Though it was fun to try to get it to run on my S3 ViRGE.
Also, don't use RTCW as a reference for performance. My 16MB Cyberblade XP al1 with an estimated 3dMark 2001 score at 1024x768(it wouldn't run, but it ran at 640x480 and 800x600 so I extrapolated) of slightly over 400 ran RTCW at a rate coming very close to playability. The Intel Extreme, with approximately five times the power of the cyberblade(2000 score in 3dMark 2001 at 1024x768) and five times the ram would pwn that game so bad it would feel it for a week.
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Well well, something new to save for!
One more question. PCI slots are internal to the compuer, correct?
f only life let you press CTRL-Z.
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Quote:Alex Kidd or Mario World are also for 10 years old children and I still play those games.
Alex Kidd was probably the first ever game that I played. I played it on the Master System when I was about 7 or 8. :bounce:
Half-Life is my favourite game series of all time. The main game that I play at the moment is Team Fortress Classic; a modification for Half-Life 1. I've played that mod for well over 5 years now. 
If you do get Half-Life 2 (which you definitely should... never mind the price, you will not regret it... plus Valve deserve every penny they get), you should also get Half-Life and Half-Life: Blueshift. By playing those, the story in HL2 will probably make a lot more sense... plus those games are very cheap now (£10 for the two of them in Game in the UK).
Despite the stunning graphics and physics engine, HL2 also has the best storyline I've ever played (although, I don't really play many games). The quality of the storyline in Half-Life is pretty much equal; they're both exciting, interesting, fun and twisty.
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