Favorite desktop environment

[eno_on]

If you use kde or gnome on a 300-600MHZ computer it IS real slow.
When enlightenment dr17 stabilizes, you will have a lightweight and really good looking UI. For now, fluxbox suffices .
I use <60MB of RAM under linux with nothing running (Much less if I don't have Xorg running and if I unload unneeded modules), and like 150MB with XP.

[Kevin_theprogrammer]

Here is some information:

• I have a 20GB Hard drive...Taking enough for debian would eat up too much for my DirectX rogramming(I don't have the money for a new drive since I paid my freind to eat a pringles can(He ate metal and all :o ))
  
  My printer is a Laserjet6L - All it prints out in Linux is Gnome%%%
  
  My modem fails detection - probably a winmodem
  Brand: Conexant PCI Data/Fax - installed on COM 3
  
  I have a Pentium III processor- maybe a problem
  
  My computer was designed for ME - maybe a problem
  
  My mouse flickered because I chose Nvidia in the setup, I later tried VESA and the problem was gone...
  

in slow I mean it would take 1 - 5 minutes to open an application

Things I just hated with how linux is set up:

• -the command line
  -mounting drives before reading them then unmounting them - windows will do it in one single step...
  -Disk drive won't open when I want it to
  -I prefer FAT32 and NTFS
  -there is no ext3 defragmenter
  -assembler is half assed AT&T style
  -there are no GUI oriented programming enviroments like Dev-C++
  

can't there be an OS that will convert Windows, apple, and linux applications to its own format, have the ease of windows, yet have the stability and safety(MYTH) of Linux? If only I was a good enough programmer...

[whitetiger0990]

• -the command line
  -mounting drives before reading them then unmounting them - windows will do it in one single step...
  -Disk drive won't open when I want it to
  -I prefer FAT32 and NTFS
  -there is no ext3 defragmenter
  -assembler is half assed AT&T style
  -there are no GUI oriented programming enviroments like Dev-C++
  

1) o_O What wrong with *nix terminal?
2) Automounter
3) ?
4) Meh
5) Is it needed?
6) =/ Get a different compiler then
7) Real programmers don't need IDEs =P

[Kevin_theprogrammer]

1) just don't like it. I prefer DOS
2) where do I get one of those
3) never had this problem in windows
4) ...
5) the filesystem still will get screwed up
6) I haven't seen an Intel asembler for linux
7) I suck at programming...

[eno_on]

1. the command line

-Way better than window's shell which has barely been updated since DOS 6. With Linux you have (better)autocomplete, colors, etc.

2. mounting drives before reading them then unmounting them -
windows will do it in one single step...

-Automounter if you want it (new linux distros usually have it already set up). I personally don't like the OS automounting because who said I want to mount the drive? I could be formatting it...

3.Disk drive won't open when I want it to

-You gotta unmount (duh!)

4.I prefer FAT32 and NTFS

fat and NTFS suck. Ext3 is better. You can use fat through Linux by default, and NTFS read/write through captive.

5. there is no ext3 defragmenter

Yes there is. But you don't really need it. Use f s c k (it's a command, seriously) if your fs gets screwed up.

6. assembler is half assed AT&T style

Not if you use NASM - it's free and it's Intel style.

7. there are no GUI oriented programming enviroments like Dev-C++

-Look up Anjuta and Eclipse. Both are excellent.

[rpgfan3233]

7) I suck at programming...

So do I. I'm a console programmer right now. I don't code any Win32 API bloat yet. (I also have the wx-c library thanks to Dev-C++, so maybe I could look up one of the tuts in QBE. . .

I have Dev-C++, but I usually compile via command line in WinXP (I added the compile directory to my PATH environment variable).

I suppose I could just get rid of Dev-C++ and leave all of the libraries, et cetera intact, but then I wouldn't have enough bloat for XP to handle. :lol: Besides, occasional syntax highlighting never hurt anyone.

[Sterling Christensen]

-It was slow
-My mouse flicked when I scrolled

Did you try NVidia's excellent 3D accelerated Linux drivers? You were probably using the alternative slow 2D-only nvidia drivers that come with most distros.
There are serveral other things you could check on that might have been making Linux run slow for you.

2) where do I get one of those

Many of the latest distros have automounting. I'm pretty sure Mandriva would. There are tutorials to set up automounting on distros that don't come with it.

can't there be an OS that will convert Windows, apple, and linux applications to its own format, have the ease of windows, yet have the stability and safety(MYTH) of Linux? If only I was a good enough programmer...

ReactOS - a free Windows clone. It runs app and drivers designed for Windows. Shares a lot of code with WINE. A work in progress, but functioning enough that you can try it out. Right now it's a lot less stable than Windows, but eventually...

Linux safety/stability:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/se...singleuser
http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/se...#multiuser

A Linux virus could only damage your user's files, it couldn't touch the OS itself or any of the apps. This is not a myth.

-there are no GUI oriented programming enviroments like Dev-C++

Basic dialects with GUI form designers:
Visual wx-c Developer for FreeBASIC
RealBasic
RapidQ
KBasic

C++/Java/others with GUI form designers:
KDevelop
Qt Designer
Anjuta
Eclipse

5. there is no ext3 defragmenter

Linux filesystems are generally tuned so that they never get fragmented enough to require a defrag in the first place.

LinuxPlanet[/url]"]DOS users are accustomed to defragging their disks every few
weeks and some have even developed some ritualistic beliefs regarding
defragmentation.

None of these habits should be carried over to Linux and ext2. Linux native
file systems do not need defragmentation under normal use and this includes
any condition with at least 5% of free space on a disk.

[KiZ]

Terminal only.

Step into the 21st century already. :P

Desktop environments were made to be asthetically pleasing and make using an OS faster and more efficient. Dont tell someone to go back to using a terminal only. Thats like moving back in time.

[rpgfan3233]

Terminal only.

Step into the 21st century already.

Desktop environments were made to be asthetically pleasing and make using an OS faster and more efficient. Dont tell someone to go back to using a terminal only. Thats like moving back in time.

Type faster. :-D

[Kevin_theprogrammer]

-It was slow
-My mouse flicked when I scrolled

Did you try NVidia's excellent 3D accelerated Linux drivers? You were probably using the alternative slow 2D-only nvidia drivers that come with most distros.
There are serveral other things you could check on that might have been making Linux run slow for you.

2) where do I get one of those

Many of the latest distros have automounting. I'm pretty sure Mandriva would. There are tutorials to set up automounting on distros that don't come with it.

can't there be an OS that will convert Windows, apple, and linux applications to its own format, have the ease of windows, yet have the stability and safety(MYTH) of Linux? If only I was a good enough programmer...

ReactOS - a free Windows clone. It runs app and drivers designed for Windows. Shares a lot of code with WINE. A work in progress, but functioning enough that you can try it out. Right now it's a lot less stable than Windows, but eventually...

Linux safety/stability:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/se...singleuser
http://www.theregister.co.uk/security/se...#multiuser

A Linux virus could only damage your user's files, it couldn't touch the OS itself or any of the apps. This is not a myth.

-there are no GUI oriented programming enviroments like Dev-C++

Basic dialects with GUI form designers:
Visual wx-c Developer for FreeBASIC
RealBasic
RapidQ
KBasic

C++/Java/others with GUI form designers:
KDevelop
Qt Designer
Anjuta
Eclipse

5. there is no ext3 defragmenter

Linux filesystems are generally tuned so that they never get fragmented enough to require a defrag in the first place.

LinuxPlanet[/url]"]DOS users are accustomed to defragging their disks every few
weeks and some have even developed some ritualistic beliefs regarding
defragmentation.

None of these habits should be carried over to Linux and ext2. Linux native
file systems do not need defragmentation under normal use and this includes
any condition with at least 5% of free space on a disk.

There are things in linux :barf: that could make it just a vulnerable as windows.
You need a defragmenter whether it's FAT or ext3 :barf: ...There is no filesystem that's completely clean...

I'm going to get Vista or an eMac. I'm done with Linux :barf: , I don't want anything to do with linux :barf:, I am going poprietary all the way...