HTML/Whatever help

[wildcard]

Na Than: Its working now for the news part in the right nav. Just not the forum.

EDIT: Its working for all the sections now, just not the forum.

[toonski84]

yeah, right one works now, but:

[LooseCaboose]

What resolution are you running at Toonski? Remember that HTML is only a markup language and the client end app is left to the job of actually rendering the page. The best a web-designer can really do is try and work to the lowest common denominator, ie make sure that the page renders nicely at 640x480x16 colors.

By the way, it renders quite nicely in Lynx (text mode browser) ;-)

[Hexadecimal Disaster]

Don't you think that 640x480x16 is a bit excessive? :o

[toonski84]

well, the page is crawing with loathing, disgusting vile and fowl scroll bars at 800x600x16bit and higher, which the other 99% of th world uses.

[na_th_an]

What can I do to get rid of that bar? My HTML knowledge is 0.04%

[LooseCaboose]

Don't you think that 640x480x16 is a bit excessive?

Not really, remember HTML is only a markup language and not all computers are desktop machines and HTML doesnt only get rendered on computer screens.

Not everyone uses high-colour printers or monitors so making a page look good in 16 colours isnt necessarily a bad idea. This is not to say that you should only use 16 colours, but that the colours you do use should make the page viewable in 16 colours (no blue text on blue backgrounds). There is actually a standard set of web-safe colours which are acknowledged to render correctly on most setups.

Many people still use low resolution on laptop computers because of hardware limitations, while others use low-res on desktops because of vision limitations (older people, disabled people). Also, the future of computing may yet lie with embedded devices such as cell-phones, portable mp3 players, palm-tops etc. These devices will almost certainly be available with limited graphics hardware compared to modern desktop computers.

Remember the internet is for /everyone/, a well designed web page should be well presented to /anyone/ that views it regardless of their viewing application or system configuration.

[toonski84]

aint that what wml is for? it was my understanding that phones/etc. couldnt *view* html.

do you have any screens of qbnews in lynx?

[na_th_an]

I posted one some time ago...

.

Comming back to my question: Can I get rid of the scroll bar in a frame using a tag or something?

Another thing: Is it possible to define styles or whatever so I can especify pixel-perfect font sizes that aren't affected by the browser "font size" option?

[Dav]

What can I do to get rid of that bar? My HTML knowledge is 0.04%

I'm still learning html too, but here's what I read about scroll bars for frames.

Scroll bars appear automatically by default if the data is too large for the frame, but you can change the setting in the frame src to make them not appear, only not all the people will see all of the info at the bottom.

No scroll bar...

<frame src="test.html" name="test" scrolling="no">

Yes scroll bar...

<frame src="test.html" name="test" scrolling="yes">

Auto...

<frame src="test.html" name="test" scrolling="auto">


- Dav