C/C++ ??

[Shogun]

If you wana do mac programming with out learning java or objectiv C (for OS X) go with C, you can build carbon apps with it. If you want a real langunge, learn objectiv C!

[TheBigBasicQ]

What is objectiv C and how is it different from C/C++?

[na_th_an]

Objective C. It is a full-featured OO language designed upon C. Not like C++, which is "add OO stuff to C in the worst way possible", but more like "transform C in a OO language".

http://www.toodarkpark.org/computers/objc/

It has the great stuff found in Java: intelligent inheritance, abstract classes and interfaces.

[TheBigBasicQ]

Looks good. But I think I will stick with C++ =P

[Zack]

One thing I've been thinking is that C++ is simple C with classes. Am I right?

[TheBigBasicQ]

Nope its much more than C with classes =P. Check out some docs on C++.

[Zack]

Meh, I don't have time. =P
Give me one example of how C++ is different/better.

[na_th_an]

C++ is just C + classes

[Zack]

Hah! Nath agrees with me, I'm right.

[Hard Rock]

Dude, operator overloading rules, so :p

And java does not support it, afaik.

C++ is more then C with classes.

You can overload functions, you can create virtual funtions. Youve got templates, the stl, contructers, deconstrucers, inheritance etc etc etc.

Lets end the C++ bashing, we dont need a war over it. If you like C, use C. If you like C++ use C++. No need to start calling this one a hack, this is better then this etc.

I am a C coder, but i have no problem with C++, and its got some nice features, although i dont like everything about it, some aspects are really nice. So lets all just drop it. C is cool. C++ is also cool. There both cool.

Java GUI programming sucks. (heh, well, im not quite sure how it works actually, my solution was crap, why couldnt they just use a message que ala windows? I spend 3 fricken days reading documention, downoading examples, and reading more, and i still couldnt find a half decent way to do it. The best way it seems is to code a que myself)

Lua rocks!