Quote:I read that na_th_an. Firstly, the major problem with something like this is that it cannot be proven true by an internet source. I could just go and say "oh qbasicnews.com is a terrorist front for radical islam" and would the US gov't go and "shut it down"? Prolly yes, but that's not exactly my point, harhar.
Well, during the whole year I've
seen images of almost every action listed on TV. From different sources. As I said, it's great that they show
everything on Spanish TV, both sides of the problem, not just one.
And I won't call "dying in crossfire" when innocent people are in their homes and they get bombed by F-16.
Quote:And I won't call "dying in crossfire" when innocent people are in their homes and they get bombed by F-16.
Israel destroys homes of terrorists.
You can't bomb a house without taking out the ones next to it. That's how bombs work. You kill a person in a house, you bomb his wife and children, and neighbors.
or are you suggesting that everyone in Palestine is a terrorist? Israel has been placing their civilians in land stolen from Palestiniens - not in 1948, but NOW. That wall they're building is the latest escalation, entrapping 10s of thousands of Palestiniens and takes away their land. Land grabbing's at the center of the entire conflict between Israel and Palestine.
I can understand, and even accept one being in support of Israel in the whole issue. But statements like those are simply audacious and poorly thought out.
AFAIK, Palestine and Israel have been fighting over land ownership for centuries, trying to control "the holy land". As I said earlier...religion is a major factor.
What i find completely ironic is how the US rushes out to instill "democracy" in some foreign nation when the US itself is a republic. Go figure. :roll:
Quote:You can't bomb a house without taking out the ones next to it. That's how bombs work.
Wrong.
Quote:You kill a person in a house, you bomb his wife and children, and neighbors.
That person has already killed himself in a terrorist act. The wife and children aren't going to be in that house anymore, because they know it will be bombed. This "husband" knew what he was getting his family into. Instead of persuading him to stay not to leave his family homeless, he goes out, kills innocent people, and leaves his family homeless. If that family was stupid enough to stay in the house, then he leaves them dead.
Quote:or are you suggesting that everyone in Palestin[ian territory] is a terrorist?
No. Are you suggesting I'm suggesting that everyone in Palestinian territory is a terrorist?
Quote:Israel has been placing their civilians in land stolen from Palestiniens - not in 1948, but NOW. That wall they're building is the latest escalation, entrapping 10s of thousands of Palestiniens and takes away their land. Land grabbing's at the center of the entire conflict between Israel and Palestine.
That's right. Land. The land that the countries surrounding Israel wanted to take away from the Israelis who bought it, drive them to the sea, and kill them.
Quote:I can understand, and even accept one being in support of Israel in the whole issue. But statements like those are simply audacious and poorly thought out.
Your statements are audacious and poorly thought out.
Quote:AFAIK, Palestine and Israel have been fighting over land ownership for centuries, trying to control "the holy land". As I said earlier...religion is a major factor.
Read a history book. "centuries"? "Palestine"? PALESTINE *is* Israel, and as you should know, the Palestinian Intafada began 20 years ago, with the help of Arafat the Terrorist and his friends in the Arab world, like Saddam Hussein.
Quote:What i find completely ironic is how the US rushes out to instill "democracy" in some foreign nation when the US itself is a republic.
The US is a representative democracy, like all democracies in the world, and it
instills representative democracies.
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I'm not arguing with any of you anymore on this, or any, issue. You have thoroughly demonstrated your lack of historical knowledge and a complete lack of analytical skills.
Agamemnus, I can't understand how an intelligent person like I know you are can say such kind of atrocities and nonsenses.
You guys are right, I'm just going to drop it. I can't argue with a person who seems to want to make up his own definitions as he goes along, and argues against the dictionary.com definitions. I guess the post eariler by Nek really summed it up nicely.
Ag, the only thing I can ask you to do is look at
The communist Manifesto by Karl Marx, and read up on the election which became the turning point for one of Europes most evil mens rise to fascist power,
Adolph Hitler.
Quote:The US is a representative democracy, like all democracies in the world, and it instills representative democracies.
Each governing state is a representative democracy...the United States of America in and of itself is a Republic. Sorry to say but you've only got half the answer correct, dude.
Well, Hitler based his ideology in Nietzche's "superman" concept, that doesn't mean that Netzche was a razist fascist.