How many still use qb here?

[Rattrapmax6]

Real coders.... darn.... I can't beat dj's... :lol:

[Z!re]

Really good programmers dont even need computers, or binary, or heads! HA!

[Marcade]

I don't want to prolong this discussion. I do not doubt that there has been comercial systems made in qb moneo. What i meant was that i haven't seen anything of comercial quality from anyone in the qb community the last 6-7 years i've been here. Wether it's in qb, fb, c, c++ or anything else. My point being that no one gives a crap what language and compiler you use. Except nerds with too much time. Those who matter are the users, and they couldn't care less. I'm tired of these pointless qb vs c or qb vs fb or whatever discussion. Farking pointless. We have some of those in my univ classes, they argue with the lecturer about pointless things. Thinking that they seem smart or whatever. In reality they just look dumb. And they don't know as much as they think they do.

I get your point, and, in general, I agree with you.

However, you say: "Those who matter are the users, and they couldn't care less". This depends. If the user is a medium or large company, they will be very interested in knowing and controlling what development language was used. If you offer a product written in QB or FB, it would be rejected immediately.

The user company either wants to have ownership of the source code, or at least an escrow agreement for custody of the code. The development language must be on the company's list of accepted languages, which, no matter how much we love QB or FB, would not be on such a list, for obvious reasons.

However, if you are a major, reputable software development company, then it's possible that you could sell an executable version of a product that you developed in QB or FB. But being this reputable company, you offer a warranty to the client company.
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Would it shock you if one of the biggest companies (IBM) is using the basic syntax quite frequently in the department I work in? (And we have a global offering so it's not that small)

Muha.

Anyway I think Blitz was referring to the kind of users we find here in the community. End users. Since 95% of the produced stuff here are games anyway it does not matter what compiler you used to create the games.

I totally agree with blitz. FB is no thread to QB; it's a welcome addition. Just another hammer to drive the nail in.

[Macric]

EMS only work on this computer if USB is turned off and a few other things.

Thank you, you have filled my heart with hope.

[Moneo]

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Would it shock you if one of the biggest companies (IBM) is using the basic syntax quite frequently in the department I work in? (And we have a global offering so it's not that small).....

I'm not surprised. The Basic syntax is still very popular. Some people even use it as a form of pseudo-code that most people can understand.

I have engineer friends who originally used Fortran, but who are now using GWBasic or Basica for solving quick iterative problems.
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[jatos]

Basic syntax is really easy to understand on the whole so to me it makes sense to use it for some things, which is probably why it is still popular.

[rpgfan3233]

Some people even use it as a form of pseudo-code that most people can understand.

I usually use BASIC syntax like this for personal C++ projects. If I can't plan it while I code in C++ (too much required clutter to even think when looking at the screen), I switch to the BASIC syntax to simplify things. With the creation of FreeBasic, I no longer have to use keywords that are all uppercase (this is convenient since C++ uses keywords that are all lowercase most/all of the time)! Thank you, FreeBasic creators for creating such a wonderful application and FreeBasic fans for recommending it so strongly (in the past)!

[Moneo]

..... With the creation of FreeBasic, I no longer have to use keywords that are all uppercase........

No dialect of Basic (GWBasic, Basica, Quickbasic, nor QBasic) requires that keywords be all uppercase. This might be a "feature" of the IDE or editor that you use.
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[stylin]

..... With the creation of FreeBasic, I no longer have to use keywords that are all uppercase........

No dialect of Basic (GWBasic, Basica, Quickbasic, nor QBasic) requires that keywords be all uppercase. This might be a "feature" of the IDE or editor that you use.
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Yes, but they've all been case-insensitive, which is definitely a non-feature, IMO.

[Dr_Davenstein]

You mean you'd rather have the compiler accept...

RABBIT
Rabbit
rabbit

as three dfferent keywords? Not me. :barf: